prof. maimoona of QTV and her disrespect
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tried to attempt a translation below
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00:00 - 00:28
dekhiye woh to rasoole akram sal Allahu 'alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam ko bhi Allah ta'ala farmatey hain ke wa maa 'alaika illal balaagh.. aap ke zimmey pohnchaaney ke siwa koi zimmedar* nahin
See, Allah even instructs the Blessed Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam, wa maa 'alaika illal balagh ... you do not have any responsibility other than to convey
00:28 - 00:40
aur isi tarah ek jagah farmaya lasta 'alaihim bi musaytir ke aap ko thaanedaar nahin banaaya gaya
and similarly [He, Allah] states in another place lasta 'alaihim bi musaytir... [which means] you (ie the Prophet) have NOT been made a constable [over them]
00:40 - 00:47
jab ek nabi ko ye keh diya gaya hai
when a Prophet has been commanded thus
00:47 - 00:53
to hum keh saktey hain?
then can we say it?
00:54 - 00:56
hum do bar, dus bar, bees bar kehtey rahengey ke**
we can say twice or ten times or twenty times that...
00:56 - 01:07
Allah ta'ala ko bhi nahin chahiye hai ke tum dandey ya talwar ke zor se kisi ko kalma padhwa do
Even Allah ta'ala doesn't want that you force someone to read the shahada by the baton or the sword
01:07 - 01:29
padhna hai padhey, nahin padhna to Rasool-e-Akram sal Allahu 'alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam se bhi farma diya ke darogha nahin banna hai ... laa ikraaha fid deen ... zabardasti nahin laana hai
if one wants, they can read [the shahada], if they do not want, [Allah] even told the Blessed Prophet sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam that he should not be a constable [over them] ... laa ikraaha fid deen ... [one is] not forced to accept [Islam]
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**the poster chopped off the rest of her comment
*the word used should be zimmedaarI which means responsibility, rather than zimmedar which means responsible, but that seems to be a slip of the tongue and has no bearing on respect or disrespect people are attributing to her.
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I do not have the most perfect Urdu and not the sweetest of mannerisms.
At first instance at 00:40 I thought the poster might have just misunderstood her as she wasn't calling the Blessed Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam, as "thaanedaar" (constable/inspector) but rather was negating it and making a point rhetorically, albeit with sarcasm (an example is a person saying something like, "mate, my dad ain't a junkie" ... its a rhetoric comment making a point and depending on the context could be disrespectful too despite the speakers intention of trying to make a point)
... but then she used the word again
the filth of her heart and her arrogance shows in these two videos on the following days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkoI6w1l2YY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vaqp62bx4c&feature=related
The host tried to confront her at her usage of inappropriate words for the blessed Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam, in a decent enough way (to me at least)...
... and she could have shown her true 'aqidah and love of the deen and the Prophet by just saying something like "no disrespect was intended haasha lillaah... I was only making a point ... besides I negated those words for the Blessed Habib al-A'zdham... if there is any hint of disrespect I repent and seek forgiveness from Allah and apologize to the viewers" and it would have been a case closed and would have been a good display of an 'aalima crushing her ego and being humble... instead she stuck to her ego
Allah and His Messenger know best; 'azza wa jall wa sal Allahu 'alaihi wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam
May Allah always keep us steadfast on His deen and always a humble, loyal, sag-e-Madina always and save and protect us from any disrespect to His beloved. Aameen bi jaahi nabiyyil ameen.
---TRANSLATION OF QUOTE---
00:00 - 00:28
dekhiye woh to rasoole akram sal Allahu 'alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam ko bhi Allah ta'ala farmatey hain ke wa maa 'alaika illal balaagh.. aap ke zimmey pohnchaaney ke siwa koi zimmedar* nahin
See, Allah even instructs the Blessed Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam, wa maa 'alaika illal balagh ... you do not have any responsibility other than to convey
00:28 - 00:40
aur isi tarah ek jagah farmaya lasta 'alaihim bi musaytir ke aap ko thaanedaar nahin banaaya gaya
and similarly [He, Allah] states in another place lasta 'alaihim bi musaytir... [which means] you (ie the Prophet) have NOT been made a constable [over them]
00:40 - 00:47
jab ek nabi ko ye keh diya gaya hai
when a Prophet has been commanded thus
00:47 - 00:53
to hum keh saktey hain?
then can we say it?
00:54 - 00:56
hum do bar, dus bar, bees bar kehtey rahengey ke**
we can say twice or ten times or twenty times that...
00:56 - 01:07
Allah ta'ala ko bhi nahin chahiye hai ke tum dandey ya talwar ke zor se kisi ko kalma padhwa do
Even Allah ta'ala doesn't want that you force someone to read the shahada by the baton or the sword
01:07 - 01:29
padhna hai padhey, nahin padhna to Rasool-e-Akram sal Allahu 'alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam se bhi farma diya ke darogha nahin banna hai ... laa ikraaha fid deen ... zabardasti nahin laana hai
if one wants, they can read [the shahada], if they do not want, [Allah] even told the Blessed Prophet sal Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam that he should not be a constable [over them] ... laa ikraaha fid deen ... [one is] not forced to accept [Islam]
---END TRANSLATION---
**the poster chopped off the rest of her comment
*the word used should be zimmedaarI which means responsibility, rather than zimmedar which means responsible, but that seems to be a slip of the tongue and has no bearing on respect or disrespect people are attributing to her.
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I do not have the most perfect Urdu and not the sweetest of mannerisms.
At first instance at 00:40 I thought the poster might have just misunderstood her as she wasn't calling the Blessed Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam, as "thaanedaar" (constable/inspector) but rather was negating it and making a point rhetorically, albeit with sarcasm (an example is a person saying something like, "mate, my dad ain't a junkie" ... its a rhetoric comment making a point and depending on the context could be disrespectful too despite the speakers intention of trying to make a point)
... but then she used the word again
the filth of her heart and her arrogance shows in these two videos on the following days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkoI6w1l2YY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vaqp62bx4c&feature=related
The host tried to confront her at her usage of inappropriate words for the blessed Prophet, sal Allahu 'alaihi wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam, in a decent enough way (to me at least)...
... and she could have shown her true 'aqidah and love of the deen and the Prophet by just saying something like "no disrespect was intended haasha lillaah... I was only making a point ... besides I negated those words for the Blessed Habib al-A'zdham... if there is any hint of disrespect I repent and seek forgiveness from Allah and apologize to the viewers" and it would have been a case closed and would have been a good display of an 'aalima crushing her ego and being humble... instead she stuck to her ego
Allah and His Messenger know best; 'azza wa jall wa sal Allahu 'alaihi wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam
May Allah always keep us steadfast on His deen and always a humble, loyal, sag-e-Madina always and save and protect us from any disrespect to His beloved. Aameen bi jaahi nabiyyil ameen.
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how on earth did they get wahabis and pseudo-wahabis on there to lecture people on their shows in the first place?
don't they like perform background checks or something? one would think if someone is lecturing people as an aalim, the channel administration would be well aware of where they graduated from and what are their 'aqidah and fiqhi leanings and so on.
its either a case of money talking, politics, promoting relies, power play and connections of board members, closet wahabis on board, etc. and other such stuff at worst that wahabis or pseudo-wahabis, paraded as 'ulema and lecturers went unnoticed OR gross mismanagement at best.
if she really is a deobandi/wahabi, the fact that she even got on a Q & A show is a shocker for me... was highly unexpected of QTV
don't they like perform background checks or something? one would think if someone is lecturing people as an aalim, the channel administration would be well aware of where they graduated from and what are their 'aqidah and fiqhi leanings and so on.
its either a case of money talking, politics, promoting relies, power play and connections of board members, closet wahabis on board, etc. and other such stuff at worst that wahabis or pseudo-wahabis, paraded as 'ulema and lecturers went unnoticed OR gross mismanagement at best.
if she really is a deobandi/wahabi, the fact that she even got on a Q & A show is a shocker for me... was highly unexpected of QTV
yes, it's a shame they have some wahabis on there.
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does someone know about the guy who does rah e nijat? i think his name is muhammad 'isa.
what about the one who does ahe e nabawai ke mah o saal?
what about akhlaq e muhammadi?
what about muhabbat fatah e 'aalam?
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http://www.aryqtv.tv/ has synopses. i am unsure about all the above.
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does someone know about the guy who does rah e nijat? i think his name is muhammad 'isa.
what about the one who does ahe e nabawai ke mah o saal?
what about akhlaq e muhammadi?
what about muhabbat fatah e 'aalam?
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http://www.aryqtv.tv/ has synopses. i am unsure about all the above.
Sunni Tehreek
sunniport user
her role model is Moudoodi, she said that in a interview on qtv, also she said her name was chosen by Mr Moudoodi, so how can she be a Ashiq e Rasool, we are looking for that interview rec and will add it online.
Jazak Allah
Jazak Allah
Sunni Tehreek said:
I never liked the apparent arrogance and sanctimonious nature of this lady! Thumbs up to Host Zaidi, who didn't give 2 hoots about her job, izzat, what ppl might say about her and left the set after the break! May Allah Azzawajal reward her abundantly for her strength of imaan and love of Ya Rasulallah Salallahu alaihi wasallam! Aameen.
H
hayaa
There is a video defending Prof. Maimoona on youtube which shows she is not a gustakh.
She has guided a lot of people and given them benefit.
She has guided a lot of people and given them benefit.
Sunni Tehreek
sunniport user
she is off from qtv now, she went back to saudia.
H
hayaa
She has benefitted women by giving them hidayat. Are you sure she is a Maududi? In the video, she sounds like a Sunni.
Look, there are very few Sunni alimas. We only have village aunty's who lecture here and there. They usually don't know anything.
Where are sisters supposed to go if they don't learn from Salafis? Families/husbands don't usually allow their women to learn from men. A lot of sisters who have wanted to study have gone to South African Darulums which are all Dewbandi. Where are the Sunni alimas?
Look, there are very few Sunni alimas. We only have village aunty's who lecture here and there. They usually don't know anything.
Where are sisters supposed to go if they don't learn from Salafis? Families/husbands don't usually allow their women to learn from men. A lot of sisters who have wanted to study have gone to South African Darulums which are all Dewbandi. Where are the Sunni alimas?
right now Dawate Islami women's ijtima's are doing a great job of educating sisters
but otherwise, it is true to a great extent how our women are just bombarded with old wives tales in the name of "knowledge" of deen
THAT however, does not mean we let them seek fake "knowledge" (wahabiism)... thats just like saying since we don't have Sunni 'aalima's we might as well let them learn from just anything from just anywhere, be it shia or wahabi or anyone
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but then what makes you think our brothers are half way educated
you'd be lucky to pick a random "Sunni" commoner male who even knows what Aqidah Tahawi is!
of all the sects, Sunnis, shias, wahabis, deobandis, OUR sheeple are the least educated about their maslak, be it male or female
a lot of it is attributed to local mullah's abusing the name of Ala Hazrat and other awliyaa only to run their shops for people to get involved in sub-knowledgeable politics and polemical bashing of deobandis and who ever else... there are desi Sunnis who think Malwed and Urs and Giyarhwinh are a part of aqidah... stories of karamaat of awliyaa are exaggerated with mirch and masala and what not without any knowledge being given about correct Sunni aqidah, let alone mentioning that supernatural events are not the deciding factor for a person's aqidah being right or wrong (after all, dont we believe the cursed dajjaal will also be granted supernatural events by Allah's Creating)...
it seems Giyarhwih and Chehlum and Fatiha-khwani and na't khwani and other such events with extravagant servings of chargah and biryani and khichrha and halwa and zarda are the corner stones of modern day Sunni-ism, and these are welcome with open arms by local maulvis.
so what if proper purdah is not administered in some of those gatherings, so what if the rest of the time they're busy watching bollywood trash riddled with kufr and shirk, so what if the sheeple and their children are pathetic at their pronunciation and tajweed of the Quran, so what if the women folk don't even know the BASIC rules about their monthlies and postnatal's, so what if in a crowd of 200, barely 5 people wouldn't know the basics of the REAL Sunni aqidah, so what if the sheeple go back home from these gatherings with pretentious attitudes as if they have become instant awliyaa, so what if so many of the people attending such gatherings are only yapping away to glory - point any of this out and you're a wahabi
i was shocked to hear a respectable na't khwan in the community in a western country define "Sunni" as "jo sun ke musulman hua ho" (someone who became a Muslim by hearing; maybe he meant hearing the message of Islam, Allau a'lam)... this guy was dead serious and was answering a question to a visiting scholar from desiland who was just testing the people's knowledge for some trivia... now this guy (the na't khwan) is a major na't and salam reciter in that area and a right hand man of the local maulvi of the community
we are way behind on education (myself included) of proper Sunni-ism in terms of aqidah and fiqh, but alhamdulillah it seems it is changing now with more awareness being raised by some good TV channels and a few responsible scholars and organizations like Dawate Islami and others, but we have a long way to go, even for the men folk
trust me, the men are not as privileged as you think they are in terms of religious knowledge
but otherwise, it is true to a great extent how our women are just bombarded with old wives tales in the name of "knowledge" of deen
THAT however, does not mean we let them seek fake "knowledge" (wahabiism)... thats just like saying since we don't have Sunni 'aalima's we might as well let them learn from just anything from just anywhere, be it shia or wahabi or anyone
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but then what makes you think our brothers are half way educated
you'd be lucky to pick a random "Sunni" commoner male who even knows what Aqidah Tahawi is!
of all the sects, Sunnis, shias, wahabis, deobandis, OUR sheeple are the least educated about their maslak, be it male or female
a lot of it is attributed to local mullah's abusing the name of Ala Hazrat and other awliyaa only to run their shops for people to get involved in sub-knowledgeable politics and polemical bashing of deobandis and who ever else... there are desi Sunnis who think Malwed and Urs and Giyarhwinh are a part of aqidah... stories of karamaat of awliyaa are exaggerated with mirch and masala and what not without any knowledge being given about correct Sunni aqidah, let alone mentioning that supernatural events are not the deciding factor for a person's aqidah being right or wrong (after all, dont we believe the cursed dajjaal will also be granted supernatural events by Allah's Creating)...
it seems Giyarhwih and Chehlum and Fatiha-khwani and na't khwani and other such events with extravagant servings of chargah and biryani and khichrha and halwa and zarda are the corner stones of modern day Sunni-ism, and these are welcome with open arms by local maulvis.
so what if proper purdah is not administered in some of those gatherings, so what if the rest of the time they're busy watching bollywood trash riddled with kufr and shirk, so what if the sheeple and their children are pathetic at their pronunciation and tajweed of the Quran, so what if the women folk don't even know the BASIC rules about their monthlies and postnatal's, so what if in a crowd of 200, barely 5 people wouldn't know the basics of the REAL Sunni aqidah, so what if the sheeple go back home from these gatherings with pretentious attitudes as if they have become instant awliyaa, so what if so many of the people attending such gatherings are only yapping away to glory - point any of this out and you're a wahabi
i was shocked to hear a respectable na't khwan in the community in a western country define "Sunni" as "jo sun ke musulman hua ho" (someone who became a Muslim by hearing; maybe he meant hearing the message of Islam, Allau a'lam)... this guy was dead serious and was answering a question to a visiting scholar from desiland who was just testing the people's knowledge for some trivia... now this guy (the na't khwan) is a major na't and salam reciter in that area and a right hand man of the local maulvi of the community
we are way behind on education (myself included) of proper Sunni-ism in terms of aqidah and fiqh, but alhamdulillah it seems it is changing now with more awareness being raised by some good TV channels and a few responsible scholars and organizations like Dawate Islami and others, but we have a long way to go, even for the men folk
trust me, the men are not as privileged as you think they are in terms of religious knowledge
Very interesting points rasied by bro AQ.............
This is something we Sunnis should be proud of, No??
I for one rate anyone that has been able to withstand pressures from deviant sects to give this all up. All these rituals/offerings/events are an important part of our Deen, in my humble opinion............Simply importing and maintaining these traditions (from the heartland of Indo_pak) into the West is in itself a major accomplishment and should be emphasised, so that this is not lost and forgotten.
Don't get me wrong bro.....you have raised valuable points. I just thought I'd add my penny's-worth in
This is something we Sunnis should be proud of, No??
I for one rate anyone that has been able to withstand pressures from deviant sects to give this all up. All these rituals/offerings/events are an important part of our Deen, in my humble opinion............Simply importing and maintaining these traditions (from the heartland of Indo_pak) into the West is in itself a major accomplishment and should be emphasised, so that this is not lost and forgotten.
Don't get me wrong bro.....you have raised valuable points. I just thought I'd add my penny's-worth in
