chisti-raza
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abu Hasan said:i struggled hard to keep quiet,
Then, my dear brother, you should have struggled a bite harder. the 12th night approaches so I will ignore you for now!
abu Hasan said:i struggled hard to keep quiet,
With all due respect, I agree.chisti-raza said:Then, my dear brother, you should have struggled a bite harder. the 12th night approaches so I will ignore you for now!
chisti-raza said:I really hope that people would love reading this masterpiece which defends the Nobility of our Prophet (Peace and blessings be unto him).
AbdalQadir said:Page 82 of Chishti-Raza's attachment in post number 7.
"In brief Deobandis and wahhabis are sailing in the same boat and the author as well is on the boat with them. Both the groups are Kaafirs in the view of Jurists."
Leaves very little room for tawil at what he thinks of nuh keller, and rightfully so.
Kufr-e-Sareeh Mutabayyan
This is when the kufr is apparent but has room for a far fetched interpretation of imaan. For example; if a person says "No kaafir will go to hell, only muslims will", this is apparently kufr, it is against very clear verses of the Qur'aan. However, the qaa'il (one who made the comment) can interprete the comment and say "i meant that after one dies he accepts the fact that Islam is the correct religion. On the day of judgement all will believe, so they'll be muslims. They will be thrown into the fire of hell because they weren't muslims in the dunya".
The scholars divide into two groups upon the hukm of the qaa'il of Kufr-e-Sareeh Mutabayyan. The Fuqaha say that he will be called a kaafir, no matter what his intention. However, the Mutakallimeen say that he must not be called a kaafir (must remain silent) until his intention is known.
Isma'il Dehelvi's book "Taqweeyah Al Imaan" is full of Kufr-e-Sareeh Mutabayyan. That is why scholars had different opinions. He was called a kaafir by many scholars such as "Allama Fazl-e-Haq Kherabaadi" (Allah is pleased with him) and others remained silent. Alaa Hazrat has written in his sharah, Al Mu'taqad Al Muntaqad of Al Mu'tamad Al Mustanad after mentioning Isma'il Dehelvi's statements of kufr, that he has become a kaafir according to the mazhab of the Fuqaha but i acting upon the mazhab of the Mutakallimeen remain silent!!!!! This shows that Ala Hazrat has the same view as Allama Fazl-e-Haq Kherabaadi! But for himself chose the safer opinion! This was Ala Hazrat's taqwa!
In the above there was room for Ikhtilaaf, because there was room for interpretation. And from what Ala Hazrat's written, it looks like there is no ikhtilaaf. Someone who calls Isma'il Dehelvi a kaafir is correct according to the Fuqaha's Mazhab and someone who remains silent is also correct according to the Mutakallimeen's Mazhab!
Kufr-e-Sareeh Muta'ayyan
This is when the kufr is apparent and there is no room for interpretation. All the scholars; the Fuqaha and the Mutakallimeen unanimously unite that the qaa'il is a kaafir and he who doubts his kufr is also a kaafir.
“Mere currency among common folk [úrf] is not sufficient to issue a ruling. Rather, rulings must take the real meanings of words into consideration. Therefore, a person who calls himself a Deobandi, is known by others as a Deobandi, believes these four Ulema-e-Deoband to be his leaders, even labels the Ahlus Sunnah as Bid’atis, but is not aware of the infamous statements of Kufr of these four scholars, then in reality he is not a Deobandi [who is ruled kafir]. Such a person is not ruled as a disbeliever or that performing his funeral prayer is disbelief. And Allah knows best.”[8]