Du’ā for a Wahabhi

[Ridwi]

From al-Malfudh Sharīf:

Question
Is it permissible to say, “May Allah Almighty give hidāyah to the Wahābī?”

Answer
Du’ā of hidāyah for the Wahābīs is fruitless. It is clearly stated:

Then they will not return [to Iman].[1]
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A Wahabhi will never return from his Kufr. All those who were misled by the Wahābī and later repented by making Towbah, were actually not Wahābīs. The hard-core Wahābīs deceitfully lured these simple people away from Islām. On the Day of Reckoning, the Kuf’fār will say, ‘Send us back to the duniyah so that we may bring Iman.’ Allāh Almighty states:

And were they to be sent back, they would commit the same which they were forbidden to, and undoubtedly they are liars.[2]
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[1] Imām Ahmad bin Hambal’s, Musnad, Hadith 11374, narrated by Sayyidunā Abī-Sa’īd al-Khud’rī rađiyAllāhu ánhu.
[2] al-Qur’ān al-Karīm: Surah al-An’ām, Ayah 28.

 

[Aqdas]

All those who were misled by the Wahābī and later repented by making Towbah, were actually not Wahābīs.

i thought about this and the only conclusion i reached was the hadith that says iman will leave them like an arrow leaves prey, never to return.

 

[hayaa]

Thanks. Just one question. Whats the difference between hard core Wahabi and Simple Wahabi? How can we tell one from the other.

 

[Mohammad Hassan Raza]

Assalaamu 'Alaykum

There is nothing like a Hardcore and a simple wahhabi .. Yes there is something called a Wahhabi and a Sulah kulli

If i guessed corretly a simple wahhabi according to you is rather like a Sulah kulli, he does offer Salaam, sits in a Meelad Shareef, and behaves like a Sunni.. But he firmly belives in wahhabi Aqaid too. and believes that wahabis and Sunni s is a "secondary feeling". "Primarily" both are Muslims.

A hardcore wahhabi is, in simple words, like a counterpart of a Staunch Sunni.. Like we say that Wahhabis are deviants , similarly a hardcore wahhabi says that Sunnis are deviants (Na'auzbillah)

ALLAH HAAFIZ

 

[AbdalQadir]

Waleikum Salam Hassan Raza,

Saying only as a brother, and with no hubris, your Sunni 'aqidah needs some fine tuning.

 

[SuleimanalMuslim]

Attending mawlid is not the criterion of being a sunni, sidi hassan. Prohibitting it is one thing, not performing it is another.

 

[Ridwi]

The Salat al-Janazah of a Wahabhi

 

[Mohammad Hassan Raza]

Waleikum Salam Hassan Raza,

Saying only as a brother, and with no hubris, your Sunni 'aqidah needs some fine tuning.

Assalaamu 'Alaykum

Replying to u solely as a brother and with no hubris, ifeel that ur interpretation of things need a fine tuning too..

What I said was a difference between a simple wahhabi and a hardcore one.. Well tahir gayawi is a hardcore one and the characteristics which I laid down justifies his act ..

Now there is nothing called a Simple wahhabi , as i mentioned earlier, clarifing Hayaa that the description of a simple wahhabi that I made is that of a sulah Kulli .. I made no mistake .. as far as i think ..!!

Now wat I guess is that my fault lies in the fact that I should have mentioned that a simple wahhabi does not forces anything on people and states that celebrating Meelad Shareef and others are bid'ah and all that rot without strictly on people, and on the contrary is the hardcore one ..

U r welcome if u provide more appropriate definitions, and I shall accept them gladly if u provide a better one ..

 

[Mohammad Hassan Raza]

Attending mawlid is not the criterion of being a sunni, sidi hassan. Prohibitting it is one thing, not performing it is another.

Assalaamu 'Alaykum

Thank u for reminding me that fact which i already am remembering .. whatever u quoted is correct no doubt .. But there lies some sort of a twist!
A muslim when is wearing an armani suit is still a muslim.. But the same person wearing a salwaar qameez or a lungi, or a jubbah with Imaamah, appears a Muslim too!.. Mark my words, appears a muslim too!..

Performing Meelad Shareef is a Sign of a SUNNI MUSLIM .!. No doubt a pesron not performing Meelad is a deobandi , but Meelad Shareef is to be looked upon not as a function in which Na'at Shareef is offered or Salaatu Salaam is offered, it is a token or sign of
Our Respect for Sarkaar-e-Madeenah Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam ..

I do not have any problem if a a person in Nigeria is not performing Meelaad Shareef but offering Durood Shareef with LOVE and RESPECT.. I still do not have any problem if any Jack or Mike has converted to Islaam and who does not know about either Durood Shareef or Meelaad Shareef , but when He Hears or Pronounces The Name Of Sultaan-e-Do Jahaan Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam with Respect That Comes from Within .. I have no problem still if a Person of the Wilderness of Amazon (a muslim ofcource) knows nothing other than the Kalimah, when he Hears or Says The Mubaarak Ism Shareef of HUzoor Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam, he Picturises My Sarkaar as a Great King ..


But yes I do have problem if a Learned Najdi Aalim,who has got the oppurtunity to Study Ahaades-e-Karaam and Fiqhi Ahkaam, and The Ahkaam of Shariat does not offer Salaatu Salaam, saying it is Shirk ! or a person who has done Hifz from deoband does not offer Eesaal-e-Sawaab, and Meelad Sahreef saying it is Naajaayiz !!


When Sarkaar A'ala Hazrat Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu said - " After my Death when you Dig my grave, Dig it a bit Deeper." When questioned about the reason he said that " When Sarkaar-e-Madeenah Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam will be present in My Grave, how is it possible that My Sarkaar Is Standing and Ahmad Raza is lying down .?!" When someone asked "What if the people ask in which Book (Fiqhi book, or Hadeeth Shareef or any Islamic rulings book) is this written to dig the grave deeper .. To this Sarkaar A'ala Hazrat replied- "Say to them that it is Written in the Book of Love (Keh dena ki Kitaab-e-Ishq me Likha Hai) ) ..!

Hope u understood Sulaymaan Bhaijaan ..!

ALLAH HAAFIZ

 

[hayaa]

Assalaamu 'Alaykum

There is nothing like a Hardcore and a simple wahhabi .. Yes there is something called a Wahhabi and a Sulah kulli

If i guessed corretly a simple wahhabi according to you is rather like a Sulah kulli, he does offer Salaam, sits in a Meelad Shareef, and behaves like a Sunni.. But he firmly belives in wahhabi Aqaid too. and believes that wahabis and Sunni s is a "secondary feeling". "Primarily" both are Muslims.

A hardcore wahhabi is, in simple words, like a counterpart of a Staunch Sunni.. Like we say that Wahhabis are deviants , similarly a hardcore wahhabi says that Sunnis are deviants (Na'auzbillah)

ALLAH HAAFIZ

Just thought I would let you know that your post makes no sence at all.

Back to the first post. It says it is not worth praying for Wahabis because they are gonnas. Whats the point of doing anything about them then? Why speak about aqeedah then? If they are gonnas once they became Wahabis, then why do debates, arguing, cussing them, exposing them and so on?

 

[hayaa]

Attending mawlid is not the criterion of being a sunni, sidi hassan. Prohibitting it is one thing, not performing it is another.

Mawlid is a great sign of Tauheed and Risaalat. So it is a great sign of Sunnism. Celebrating Meelad is a sign of being Sunni. Other firqas don't do. Only Sunnis do it so it is a sign of Sunnism.

 

[Mohammad Hassan Raza]

Just thought I would let you know that your post makes no sence at all.

Back to the first post. It says it is not worth praying for Wahabis because they are gonnas. Whats the point of doing anything about them then? Why speak about aqeedah then? If they are gonnas once they became Wahabis, then why do debates, arguing, cussing them, exposing them and so on?

Just thought I wud let u know that u are blessed enough to know that wahabis are gonnas, everyone does not know that and that is why this fuss! ..

wahhabis are deviants, got that ! And without proving, arguing, debating, cussing them, exposing them and so on u simply cannot prove to a common muslim, that a person with a Beard, adorning Muslim attire, offering Salaah, reciting Qur'an Shareef, Having faith on the Kalimah, and believing in the Qur'an and Ahadeeth-e-Karaam is a deviant .! The people will chew u off like a bubble gum ..

ashraf thanwi was not blindly ghiven the Fatawa of Kufr by Various Blessed Ulama-e-Ahl-e-Sunnah and by Sarkaar A'ala Hazrat Rahmatullah 'Alayh .. they had to prove it from Qur'an wa Ahadeeth-e-Karaam that he is a Kaafir .. And surprisingly even till date many people do not agree to this .. And amongst these "many people" there are many who have sound knowledge of the Qur'an wa Ahadeeth-e-Karaam ..!

You know they are gonnas, i know that too.. But we need that the entire mass should get to know their real face so that they too can be saved from their lies, fabrications, and deviant beliefs ...

If your approach should be followed, then what was the need for
Hazrat Allamah Arshad al-Qaadri Sahab Rahmatullah 'Alayh to travel all-around India, hold conferences, hold lectures and Taqreers, perform Munaazirah and trouble himself .. He too might have said they everybody knows they are gonnas ! Why to fight and fuss over it? No.. , because he thought it as his Responsibility to Expose and uncover the lies and deviant beliefs and the people involved in it .. So that the common people like you and me are saved from their Deviant and Gustaakhanah beliefs ..

Hope u understand why we are all indulged in this cussing them and exposing them stuff ..!

ALLAH HAAFIZ

 

[chisti-raza]

Mawlid is a great sign of Tauheed and Risaalat. So it is a great sign of Sunnism. Celebrating Meelad is a sign of being Sunni. Other firqas don't do. Only Sunnis do it so it is a sign of Sunnism.

there is difference between 'criterion for' and a 'sign of'.