Caution to all Sunnis from suhaib webb

Wadood

Wadood

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assalamu 'alaykum brothers and sisters

I would like to request that you spread the word to all Sunnis to avoid this man and those affiliated with him at all costs. He is not Sunni. He has wahhabi aqida through and through. Please believe me. He is the worst wahhabi offshoot I have ever seen, something totally new. He hides behind the garb of the phrase "traditional islam", and maliki fiqh. Please spread the word. He is more insidious and dangerous and worse than the worst salafi/modernist out there. If you believe a maududi follower is bad, then trust me this guy is the father of all maududis/ikhwanis.

I fear for the tens of thousands of Muslims, especially common Sunni immigrants, subcontinentals, african, afghans, arabs, whoever, in north america, and elsewhere. He mostly target the young and young adults. He had almost 2000 young adults, muslim men and women listening to him at MCA in california where he is to become an imam. suhaib webb is at maghrib institute as well. He says he has worked under shaikh 'ali jum'a in cairo. But don't be fooled by the lofty resume. He has a blog as well. He is also linked to the UK through radical middle way. Those in the UK should spread the word to all Sunni organizations to avoid this man at all costs, please.

May Allah ta'ala protect all Muslims from the fitna of this man and his teachers and his new sect. May Allah ta'ala give guidance to these people so that they come back to the traditional Sunni path.
 
This guy is extremely dangerous to Sunnis! He encouraged hunderds of mostly Hanafi worshippers, at MCA in California, to leave their tarawiH [sunnah mu'akkada] after 8 raka'a and join him in the hall next to the prayer hall to listen to him teach 'tasawwuf' from the modernist ikhwani/maududite khurram murad. He does these to unite the Sufis with the Salafis. This is just one of his past blunders.
 
Ok so he seems from your description mostly of the ikhwaani type. Does that make him a Wahhabi though? For me when i think Wahhabi i think specifically followers of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

For example, Yusuf Qardawi issues some strange fatwas sometimes against all the 4 madhabs - but would you say he is wahhabi?
 
Assalaamu 'alaykum

Qardawi is a modernist. His fatawas in which sometimes he says that taking alcohol in small amounts is ok.. he has mostly modernist and vague sort of views..

http://www.chillyoislamyo.com/yusuf...lity-of-alcohol-in-energy-drinks-sparks-beef/

http://www.amislam.com/qaradawi.htm

These are a separate group of people, differing from wahhabis, due to their modernist and somewhat mild tendencies..

But if Suhaib webb preaches to mix salafi thoughts with the Blessed Sufi Thoughts, and also if he preaches 8 rakaah Taraawih Salaah rather than a 20 rakaah Taraawih Salaah, he has the typical Salafi, that is an Ahle-Hadees type tendency and of cource then he is a wahhabi..

ALLAH HAAFIZ
 
haroon, you would also not think of deobandis as wahhabis, but to me they are nothing less than wahhabis. However, this guy is worse than most deobandis, I tell you; I would like to warn all Sunni brothers and sisters. I can continue on with his and his group's bid'a, about acts that will astonish you, and also about the damage they are doing to innocent Muslims. Unfortunately, he is a star at deenport.
 
Ok Wadood i think you are here required to be more specific. If you have further examples it will help people make correct judgement. I mean i know in Birmingham a Shafii mosque who have been influenced by ahle hadith so that they have ended up praying 8 rakat taraweeh. So they are wrong in this, but in their aqeedah they do not have any beliefs similar to those of salafis.
 
these people are indeed worse than wahabis and deobandis and shias put together. they have taken the worst of all sects including misguided "sufis" and made a new homogeneously idiotic sect of modernist buffoonic politicians out of it. there's a major desi "scholar" too like this.

these people are "sunnis" with sunnis. "wahabis" with wahabis, and so on. in reality they're none of them, just the worst of all - a bunch of politicians.

as the saying goes, if you don't stand for SOME thing, you'll fall for ANY thing.
 
Haroon said:
I mean i know in Birmingham a Shafii mosque who have been influenced by ahle hadith so that they have ended up praying 8 rakat taraweeh. So they are wrong in this, but in their aqeedah they do not have any beliefs similar to those of salafis.
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Very good.. It is similar to a present day deobandi saying that "How dare anybody insult our Blessed Prophet Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam !!" and at the same time is studying Taqwiyatul Imaan, Hifzul Imaan, fatawa rasheediyah and saying that these are the books of "Immense Knowledge"!!

Tarawih Salah is of 20 Rak'ah and it is the blief of all4 Madhabs except of cource the Ghayr Muqallids who say 8

ALLAH HAAFIZ
 
Mohammad Hassan Raza said:
Very good.. It is similar to a present day deobandi saying that "How dare anybody insult our Blessed Prophet Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam !!" and at the same time is studying Taqwiyatul Imaan, Hifzul Imaan, fatawa rasheediyah and saying that these are the books of "Immense Knowledge"!!

Tarawih Salah is of 20 Rak'ah and it is the blief of all4 Madhabs except of cource the Ghayr Muqallids who say 8

ALLAH HAAFIZ
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I dont think you got my point. What i am trying to say is that there are some who may or not have the correct aqeedah, but some of their beliefs / actions will go out of the mainstream. Does this then mean that they are classified as wahhabis or anything else outside of ahle sunnah?

Another example, lets say there is a big Pir who although hanafi seems to think its fine to have the beard below the fist length? Or theres another outwardly sunni hanafi scholar who leads a janazah in absentia prayer (going against the hanafi madhab then) etc etc

Now for Imam Suhaib Webb, I dont know enough about him. I have only heard a few of his speeches but I feel that if we are condemning him to being a wahhabi, then at least some more justification should be given.
 
I came across Suhaib Webb during my 2003-04 stay in Berkeley, California. Although he used to conduct weekly halaqa for brothers (and sisters!) in the campus, I never had a chance to attend any of these (even though I naively believed that he must be a sunni to be conducting halaqa!).

I did hear him in person during MSA West conference. With firebrand speech full of bravado and frontal attack on the establishment, he sure knew how to connect with the audience. As an ex-punk, he does have good feel of the pulse of the youth. I didn't find much substance in his speeches though. He did allude to his open differences with Zaytuna. Soon after he left for al-Azhar.

Later I came across his blog and was extremely disappointed to learn about his views regarding salafis etc. I am glad that I never made it to any of his halaqas.
 
For clarity on this issue brothers should read the risaalah by Shaykh al Islam Imam Ahmad Rida rahimahullahu Ta'ala:

I'tiqaad al Ahbaab fi al Jameel wal Mustafa wal Aal wal As`haab

Tabaarak wa Ta'ala, sall Allahu 'alaihi wa Aalihi wasallam, radi Allahu Ta'ala 'anhum ajmai'en

al Atayaa al Nabawiyyah fi al Fatawaa al Ridawiyyah
volume 29 page 339

It is mentioned on page 385 about

1) Dururiyaat al Deen the necessities of the religion

2) Dururiyaat Madhab Ahl al Sunnah wal Jama'ah the necessities of the Ahl al Sunnah wal Jama'ah

ect
 
What is the Ruling on Seeking Divine Aid from Other than Allah, even if it were a Prophet?
Published on May 27, 2009 — 20 Comments
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Answered by Al-Allāmah̄ Sh. Muhammad al-Hasan Walid al-Didō al-Shanqītī

The Question:

What is the ruling on seeking divine aid from other than Allah, even if it were a Prophet? (peace be upon them)

The Answer:


Allah says in the Qur’an, “That is Allah, your Lord; to Him belongs sovereignty. And those whom you invoke other than Him do not possess [as much as] the membrane of a date seed. If you invoke them, they do not hear your supplication; and if they heard, they would not respond to you. And on the Day of Resurrection they will deny your association. And none can inform you like [One] Acquainted [with all matters].” (35: 13-14)


It is inconceivable that one could possess more knowledge than Allah, and inform you of something contrary to the definitive ruling above which covers every possibility.* Al-Istighātha means to seek aid; and it would never be complete or acceptable save with Allah, the Most High. For He is al-Mughīth, the provider of aid exclusively, and anyone other than Him has no power over himself or others to bring benefit, prevent harm, cause death, bring life or to resurrect.


Allah says, “Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.” (Qur’an, 22:73)


Translated by Suhaib Webb from dedew.net.

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*For one to seek help from other than Him. Meaning no possibility was left open for one to entertain such an idea.
 
A Glowing Example of Critique and Respect by Sh. Muhammad Hassan Al-Shanqiti (may Allah preserve him)
Published on January 13, 2009 — 6 Comments
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A Glowing Example of Critique and Respect by Sh. Muhammad Hasan Al-Shanqiti (may Allah preserve him)

The Question:

It is said that Al-Shaikh Nāṣir Al-Dīn Al-Banī, may Allah have mercy upon him, used to declare hadīth weak that were in fact strong and vice versa? Is this truly the case or not?

The Answer:

Indeed, Sheikh Albānī (ra) was from those who revived the art of examining and criticizing hadīth during these times. Indeed, due to him, many people became interested in the study of the Sunna (way of the Prophet (sa) and the science of examining reports, investigating reporters of hadīth and the extraction of sound narrations. In fact, we can safely say that he was the most famous person in this age regarding this important science and it is well known the he exercised a great amount of effort towards this field.

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Abul-Hussein
June 5, 2008 at 1:27 am | Permalink
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Ustadh Zubair,

Ideally, communities ought to be strategically organized to serve da’wah. Herein, we learn a lesson from the elders of the Ulema of Deoband (h) who engage da’wah via Tablighi Jamaat. One thing that they teach the Ummah is that da’wah demands that we know the community well. Through this knowledge we can understand the condition of our brothers and from understanding be wise in outreach. So, the scholars they teach that a major aspect of good fatwa is to identify the condition of the person asking for fatwa. This is why internet fatwas have to be general and broad to include the situations of as many as possible.
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Now the Ulema of Azhar in practice give fatwa to the masses that facilitates things for people. Meaning people can choose to follow the opinion of any qualified scholar and they are not obliged to follow a madhab, but they are recommended to follow a madhab and they are obliged to follow the Ulema. Following dalil is optimal, taqleed of an opinion with no dalil may be a necessity and is a trust relationship but widespread literacy is the goal. These are means to understand and we ought not fight over these opinion of following dalil or not. First follow a scholar get a basis then move up in understanding it would be nice for dalil to be understood by the vast majority this would indicate a high degree of literacy if there is proficiency in understanding.

The Ulema have a tendency not give strict opinions unless the situation calls for that. In the case there are two opinions, one facilitating and the other disciplining, the person is free to practice one opinion to the exclusion of the other but should be forthright with his or her self and Allah (swt) and hold the correct intention and that is to please Allah (swt).

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The Ulema of Azhar say: “Do not create hardship for the people”

You know Imam Ahmad’s (r) fiqh is so facilitating but his students imitated his Zuhd (strict life style) and obliged the people to that. So people began to think Imam Ahmad’s (r) fiqh is strict confusing his personal spiritual practice for his fiqh.

As Shaikh Suhaib was relating an opinion of the Ulema a week ago or so: he said (to the effect) our brothers need to understand that anyone can give out strict opinion but it the scholar (faqih) who knows how to deal with the rukhsa (dispensations).


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abu majeed
October 29, 2009 at 9:12 am | Permalink
As-Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah,

Identitfying oneself with a group can be just fine as long as one does so recognizing that differences should never obstruct the unity and brotherhood of Ahle Sunnah wal-Jama’ah. Although Sh. Dido (ha) does not ascribe to any group per say, he is a mujtahid and he beautifully represented the untiy of Islam in differing with many great repudiated scholars of ahle Sunnah wal-Jama’ah. What abul-Layth represents is the problem which he himself is quoted as saying-

“Again, the statements within this (response to this) article sadly shows the degenerate state that we find ourselves in within this sad era.”

It is our dear brothers attachment to being Sufi and Ash’ari that led him to such un-Islamic behavior. I encourage everyone to be first and foremost attached to being Muslim and having a deep reverence for the Shahadah and those who say it. Let’s let our great scholars and teachers differ. If we have heard “supposed” scholars defaming and even questioning the very faith of their peers or predecessors for differences of opinion then we should question the integrity of such a “scholar” and defintely rethink following them as they are a hinderence to the unity of Ahle Sunnah wal-Jama’ah which is an established Asl (foundation) which is based in clear decisive texts and is not up for Ijtihad. Without unity we will not succeed!

And Allah knows best

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