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Suhaib Webb
October 29, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink
Asalamu alaykum,
Akhi al-Habib:
I think in your haste you have confused a number of issues, constricting things which Allah has left open and placed within them ease.
“It is not “balance” to call the majority of this Ummah “mistaken” in creed”
There is a difference between al-Jumhur opinion and and a certain ‘Ijma. As for the former, while it is certainly given great weight, it is well known that it could be a mistake and is not a source for rulings. If you are aware of some Usoli principle that gives the Jumhor this right, I would certainly be interested in benefiting.
That being said, it seems you are turning issues where differences are allowable into the opposite. Such an attempt is what can be defined as fanaticism and extremism because it, as al-’Allahmah Yusuf al-Qaradawi noted, involves assigning people’s commitment to a thing in a way which the Shar’iah did not. Other scholars noted that such a confusion in the principles of Usol will lead one to one of two realities:
Those who earned Allah’s wrath
Those who went astray
Those who are able to apply the Usol in the correct fashion, respect differences, avoid fanatical leanings, repel their nuffs and let the Usol guide them in the light of the Maqasid are, as one scholar noted, “the people of the straight path.”
I would advice you dear brother to slow down, gain some more knowledge and learn the tools that will equip you to move beyond such partisan diatribes. I say this with nothing but love for you and concern for, what could only be described, as your cultish behavior.
SDW
abu majeed
October 29, 2009 at 3:19 pm | Permalink
As-Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah,
It is well known that the four scholars of the madhhabs followed the tradition of the Salaf in Aqeedah. For all readers who would be fooled by this brother’sand sister’s misleading statement-
“A+B= All said ‘Ulama’ above are “mistaken” – for of course reason(s) based upon the ijtihad of a scholar that comes some 1000 years after the above said ‘Ulama’’s schools have been established as Sunni orthodoxy, by both the Umara’ as well as the Mujtahid Imams.”
I ask him if the salaf i.e. the Prophet’s (saws) Companions (raa) and their followers (raa) -whom Allah mentioned are those whom He is satisfied with in verse 100 of at-tawba- were of the Ash’ari school? They knew Islam best and the well known MUJTAHID Sh. Dido (ha) is simply saying that to follow the salaf according to Allah’s guidance in verse 100 of sooorah at-tawba is correct and that those who made Ijtihad and differed with the Salaf were mistaken in using logic in trying to describe Allah. So indeed, the original opinion is the way of the Salaf which does not include any interpretations of the meanings of Allah’s attributes according to human logic.
This is my last comment on this article and I would advise others here not to get into a back and forth with this brother as this is something the salaf and khalaf have rebuked.
May Allah guide us to unity and to things more worthy of our time.
And Allah knows best
http://www.islamhouse.com/files/ar/ih_books/single/ar_5354.doc
October 29, 2009 at 5:10 pm | Permalink
Asalamu alaykum,
Akhi al-Habib:
I think in your haste you have confused a number of issues, constricting things which Allah has left open and placed within them ease.
“It is not “balance” to call the majority of this Ummah “mistaken” in creed”
There is a difference between al-Jumhur opinion and and a certain ‘Ijma. As for the former, while it is certainly given great weight, it is well known that it could be a mistake and is not a source for rulings. If you are aware of some Usoli principle that gives the Jumhor this right, I would certainly be interested in benefiting.
That being said, it seems you are turning issues where differences are allowable into the opposite. Such an attempt is what can be defined as fanaticism and extremism because it, as al-’Allahmah Yusuf al-Qaradawi noted, involves assigning people’s commitment to a thing in a way which the Shar’iah did not. Other scholars noted that such a confusion in the principles of Usol will lead one to one of two realities:
Those who earned Allah’s wrath
Those who went astray
Those who are able to apply the Usol in the correct fashion, respect differences, avoid fanatical leanings, repel their nuffs and let the Usol guide them in the light of the Maqasid are, as one scholar noted, “the people of the straight path.”
I would advice you dear brother to slow down, gain some more knowledge and learn the tools that will equip you to move beyond such partisan diatribes. I say this with nothing but love for you and concern for, what could only be described, as your cultish behavior.
SDW
abu majeed
October 29, 2009 at 3:19 pm | Permalink
As-Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah,
It is well known that the four scholars of the madhhabs followed the tradition of the Salaf in Aqeedah. For all readers who would be fooled by this brother’sand sister’s misleading statement-
“A+B= All said ‘Ulama’ above are “mistaken” – for of course reason(s) based upon the ijtihad of a scholar that comes some 1000 years after the above said ‘Ulama’’s schools have been established as Sunni orthodoxy, by both the Umara’ as well as the Mujtahid Imams.”
I ask him if the salaf i.e. the Prophet’s (saws) Companions (raa) and their followers (raa) -whom Allah mentioned are those whom He is satisfied with in verse 100 of at-tawba- were of the Ash’ari school? They knew Islam best and the well known MUJTAHID Sh. Dido (ha) is simply saying that to follow the salaf according to Allah’s guidance in verse 100 of sooorah at-tawba is correct and that those who made Ijtihad and differed with the Salaf were mistaken in using logic in trying to describe Allah. So indeed, the original opinion is the way of the Salaf which does not include any interpretations of the meanings of Allah’s attributes according to human logic.
This is my last comment on this article and I would advise others here not to get into a back and forth with this brother as this is something the salaf and khalaf have rebuked.
May Allah guide us to unity and to things more worthy of our time.
And Allah knows best
http://www.islamhouse.com/files/ar/ih_books/single/ar_5354.doc
