Ultimate A'la Hadrat and the British Thread!

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Some Shayatin (mainly Deobandis) try saying Imam Ahmad Rida Khan rahimahuAllah was a British stooge in colonial India!!

I want to start this thread to analyse the works of Imam Ahmad Rida rahimahuAllah and refute this point amply. I want to also highlight the claims of these Shayatin and refute them, so anyone wanting to read on this subject can refer back to this thread as reference point.

I think the aspect of takfir has been thoroughly discussed in this lecture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDqfTQxybJQ

But now the Najdiya are mentioning this point on many forums. I want this thread to silence them inshaAllah.

I would appreciate it if our learned brothers can add their knowledge regarding this important topic, especially Shaykh Abu Hasan hafidhahu mawlahu!!

Also if the mods can keep the posts of troublemakers under check, jazakumAllah.
 
BRITISH AGENT

Another charge against the great Mujaddid of Islam is that he was an agent of the British. Such a charge is framed by only those who charge for framing charges against Imam Ahmed Raza (alaihir rahmah). They discharge their duty. They have nothing to do with the background or base.

Nobody can say that A’la Hadrat Imam Ahmed Raza (alaihir rahmah) has ever written a single word in support of the Britishers. Nobody can say that he has ever spoken even a single word in favour of the British. Nobody can say that he has ever attended any meeting of the Britishers. Nobody can say that he ever invited any Britisher in any of his functions or ever otherwise. It was Imam Ahmed Raza who never allowed any interview to the British. He hated the British so much that he used to affix postage stamps on the envelope in such a way that the head of Queen Victoria, Edward VIII and George V were downwards. He carried out this practice not only in case of envelopes but he also wrote address on that postcard by keeping the picture-head of the Queen and King downwards. Such envelopes and postcards of A’la Hadrat Imam Ahmed Raza (alaihir rahmah) can be seen in the libraries of Prof. Dr. Mukhtar al-din Arzu at Aligarh. Some photocopies from the collection of Dr. Mukhtar al-din Arzu being presented here for the readers.

A’la Hadrat (alaihir rahmah) usually spoke and wrote against the British. His four point economic programme released in 1912 was a big challenge to the British Govt. and their interest in India. Prof. Mas‘ud Dehlawi has written a separate book “Gunahe be Gunahi” in this respect. Through his book “Ulèma-i-Deoband Ki Angrez Dosti” published from Allahabad (UP). Allama Mushtaq Ahmad Nizami has proved that, in fact, bonds of friendship existed amid Ulèma of Deoband and the British Government. Both were hand and glove with each other. Of late, Hadrat Abd al-Naim Azizi, Ex-editor of Sunni Dunya, Bareilly has compiled and published a thrilling book, “Humphery Kay e‘trafat”. (Memoirs of Mr. Humphery, the English spy in Islamic countries) which unmasks that the real British agent was Mr. Muhammad bin Abd al-Wahab. The book is a severe blow to the Wahabi world.

Allama Arshadul Qàdri has given a unique challenge to the opponents of the great Imam in this regard. He said to the opponents, “What to say of proving this charge from the books of A’la Hadrat Imam Ahmed Raza or his followers, you cannot prove this even from your own authentic books.” It is a challenge as well as an advice. Let such people find out such a charge in the books of Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Maulvi Khalil Ahmad Ambethvi etc. who were contemporaries of the great Imam. If they fail to prove from their own books, then they should at least be kind enough to feel sorry and withdraw this charge.

http://www.raza.co.za/the_mujaddid_imam_ahmed_raza_charges_leveled.html
 
British India was Daulislam and not Darulharb according to shaykh Abdul Hayy lacknuwi.
 

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I shared the refutation from ridawi.org but even then it felt like rebuttals are not enough anymore. It's always us arguing from a point of subordination, having to defend ourselves against attackers.

There needs to be a constant flow of anti-propaganda from our side to undo the brainwashing that has been so deeply ingrained against ala hazrat by relentlessly posting, re-posting and educating the people about his hatred for kuffaar, his different fataawas against the British, quotes from authorities reinforcing this etc etc.

This narrative is only amplifying day by day as the youth become even more pro-jihaad and anti-"subservience"

Besides Desi Devs, We have been caricaturised even amongst other Muslim ethnicities (like Turks & Bosnians amongst others) & as the "weak" And "Docile" Traitors of the Subcontinent.

Same points are regurgitated & Recycled every month Amongst "Academics" & Orientalists.

https://sunniport.com/index.php?threads/barelvīs-never-did-jihād.16041/
 
Oowais Qassim Ali said:
"weak" And "Docile" Traitors of the Subcontinent.
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Take up a project to translate Vol 14 of Fatawa Ridawiyya into English and mass publish and distribute it to the youth and all those nondesis you're talking about... and then talk to them about current events and politics and who fought for Islam and who fought for yahood!
Oowais Qassim Ali said:
the youth become even more pro-jihaad and anti-"subservience"
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Great, show them the subservience fatawa and actions of devbandi elders... their love for mushrikin like gandhi, patel, indira etc etc.
 
If you want to criticize barelvis for political quietism & failure to establish khilaafah, criticize everyone fairly then, from the habaaib of tareem, shaykh effendi, the Mauritanian scholars & scholars of every country which didn't declare jihaad against the government (which is actually every country on earth lol, no country has a caliphate)

But as usual "Barelvīs" are the easy targets

One can't be in a kaafir government and work for Muslims

It's simply impossible
You'll never be able to be fully shariah compliant.

You'll have to betray some people or forego some shariah rulings.

Easy example;

In parliament the opposition asks
Do you support a caliphate in India or not?

After that question it's either your job or your faith.

Look at Oowaisi & the devgandis; supporting hindūs, the genocide enabling state of Saudi Arabia, Indian colonization of Kashmīr & every type of khuraafaat just to maintain their jobs

Same can be said to a less severe degree about our scholars in the liberal Government of Pakistan, Compromisations Had to be made to keep their posts.

In Modern politics, It's either All in (Jihaad) or Nothing ; Doing some good for Muslims while engaging in Haraam other times is NOT an option.
 
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abu Hasan said:
we put the content online
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With all due respect Hazrat, I contend that this allegation merits a far more comprehensive and nuanced refutation than what is presently available on ridawi.org

Approximately eighteen months ago, I began translating Dr Masud Ahmad’s Gunah e Bey-Gunahi, recognising it as a valuable work that deserved an academic rendering and publication into English to refute all the baseless claims about Alahazrat

I have now decided to revisit this endeavour—but now not as a straightforward translation, but as a separate work inspired by the original text

If anyone possesses citations from Western academics or English-language sources alleging that Alahazrat was a British collaborator—or, conversely, materials that effectively dismantle such claims—I would be most grateful if you could share them with me; I will endeavour to incorporate them into this forthcoming work
 
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HASSAN said:
With all due respect Hazrat, I contend that this allegation merits a far more comprehensive and nuanced refutation than what is presently available on ridawi.org

Approximately eighteen months ago, I began translating Dr Masud Ahmad’s Gunah e Bey-Gunahi, recognising it as a valuable work that deserved an academic rendering and publication into English to refute all the baseless claims about Alahazrat

I have now decided to revisit this endeavour—but now not as a straightforward translation, but as a separate work inspired by the original text

If anyone possesses citations from Western academics or English-language sources alleging that Alahazrat was a British collaborator—or, conversely, materials that effectively dismantle such claims—I would be most grateful if you could share them with me; I will endeavour to incorporate them into this forthcoming work
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The title of Dr Masud's work is so apt because it sums up the reality of most, if not all of Ala Hazrat's detractors. I read its translation online many years ago and found it to be an excellent work.

On a separate note @HASSAN, it would be good to see a summary of Ala Hazrat's methodology and foresight when it comes to political and social issues that affect Muslims. It's an area that's underrated and largely unappreciated.
 
HASSAN said:
I contend that this allegation merits a far more comprehensive and nuanced refutation than what is presently available on ridawi.org
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my point was about rebuttals as a rule.

there is a big list of things that need to be done - including alahazrat's works on topics. but our basic reading bookshelf has been empty. so priority is to have books available for these things. the rest, in sha'Allah, will happen. we have covered a big distance since we started...
 
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