23rd July With Shaykh Asrar Bradford

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***The Friends of Allah Presents****

Time
23 July · 20:30 - 23:30

Location
Central Jamiyat Tabligh-ul-Islam Masjid
off Lumb Lane

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Allama Asrar Rashid (Birmingham) is to speak about the great erudite scholar and Imam Jalaluddin Al-Suyuti, may Allah Almighty be pleased with him.

Find out more about his life and times; including his works, his miracles, his students, and his way.

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Salamun alaykum

I don't intend any disrespect because clearly he's very knowledgeable, but is he really "Allamah" Asrar?

The title "Allamah" is usually reserved for most senior and respected scholars who are experts in several branches of the shari'a.

I find it strange that "Allamah" Asrar is speaking about "Imam" Suyuti!
 
sorry brother. i did not make the poster so i cannot comment... go to the facebook page above and ask this...it will be interesting to see what the organisers say?
 
Yes you are right. Asrar Rashid should NOT be referred to as "Allamah" or "Shaykh".

Can the organisers please remove all titles for him. The same with the people who have placed videos on youtube.
 
Their is nothing wrong in this. Nowadays Molvis like Muzzamil Shah are called Allamah & Moulana even though scholars in his own camp say he isn't a scholar. None of the Ulema really consider him a Alim.

Shaykh Muhammad Asrar has studied 6 or 7 years and I believe he is still studying with some scholars. Just because people don't like someone or don't feel one should be called a Allamah doesn't mean that should be the case.

As for Brother KattarSunni's post, this isn't a game people can say what they want. We don't have to remove anything of the Shaykh from the net. If you want to do that, he has also said he finds it strange that the Shaykh will be speaking about Imam" Suyuti RA. So what we do now, stop his lectures as well?

Pir Sayyid Irfan Shah Sahib on Shaykh Muhammad Asrar
 
I think these events are really good and need to carry on. Only thing I feel is that the topics needs to be on some of the beliefs of Ahlus Sunnah.

We have Abu Osama Wahabi adding videos like mad attacking Sunni Aqeedah on Youtube. I think the shaykh needs to focus on him and answer what he has been saying.

Videos need to be recorded and added on Youtube so that people can view them.
 
khadimu786 said:
Salamun alaykum

I don't intend any disrespect because clearly he's very knowledgeable, but is he really "Allamah" Asrar?

The title "Allamah" is usually reserved for most senior and respected scholars who are experts in several branches of the shari'a.

I find it strange that "Allamah" Asrar is speaking about "Imam" Suyuti!
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Umm actually, 'Imam' is reserved for the greatest of 'Ulama and Mujtahidun, so that point is totally null and void. Who refers to Imam Abu Hanifah as 'Allamah? It's only in the West where mere tullab 'l-'ilm are referred to as 'Imam'.

In the subcontinent, 'Allamah is used more freely which may or may not be a good thing.
 
Sidi Asrar Rashid has been studying with Ulama for over decade now with Ulama and is still studying. The local community of Birmingham have known him since he started his sarf tables with Saeedi Sahib and now watch him teach books like talwih, chighmini, mebzi,siraji, hidaya, urud etc etc Not many people are teaching these works and sciences inthese areas. People like me and others know sidi Asrar since he first was wearing a green turban at twelve. May ALLAH protect all Sunni youth from jealousy and commercialism.
 
Good post Brother KattarSunni. This is the only problem jealousy and I know which camp it comes from.

We have to just ignore this and carry on. I remember Hazrat Pir Syed Irfan Shah Sahib often say that people have mouths and we can't stop them. They say just ignore what they say and carry on.
 
asalamu alaikum brothers/sisters,

I have contacted and they say they will inshaAllah post up videos of the last event. I will inshaAllah post up the video on this topic aswell.
 
My point was not Shaykh Asrar himself, who is one of the people of knowledge. Rather, I think the ummah is belittling titles. I'm not aware of such use of titles in the arab world for people who have studied 6-7 years. As Suleiman points out, maybe its a sub-continent phenomenon.
 
Actually, the title may not be used in the Arab world, but mere tullab 'l-'ilm just have to sit on a sattelite channel and their fatawa will be followed all over the Arab world, by people who -- by in large -- take their din from their TV sets. The point is, there is a lack of adab (putting things in their correct place) everywhere. [you're point about imam vs. 'allamah was also not so precise.]
 
I agree with you in regards the title Imam, as this title is used for the greatest of ulema. Although I would not have advertised this event myself by writing 'Allamah' Asrar teaching the life of 'Imam' Suyuti. Perhaps Shaykh Asrar teaching the life of 'Allamah Imam al-Suyuti. The issue is the use of 'Allamah, that's all. It appears to vary according to custom.
 
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