Hazrat imam Hasan

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Sayyiduna Ghawthe A3zam radi Allahu 3anhu is also Hasani from his blessed father's side, and Husayni from his maternal side.
  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Imam Mehdi will be a Hasani Sayyid, btw, that is, from his father's side. After immediately after Imam's Hasan and Husayn radi Allahu 3anhuma time where they are considered to propagate Prophetic progeny due to Prophet's 3alaihis salam khasais, progeny is always counted from the father's side.

    His mother, however, will be a Husayni Sayyidah.

    Allah knows best.
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    how so? any proof or just: "because we say so"
    which major scholar or sufi has said that the sayyids from imam hasan's line are *not* true sayyids? references appreciated.

    so what? how does this negate the sayyid status of hasanis? which fiqh is this? will divorce annul nasab? or marrying many women by divorcing them makes nasab inconclusive? al iyadhu billah.

    those who wrote that he married many women also noted that most of the divorced women did not remarry. because they cherished the nisbah of being included in the family of aal e rasul. [i.e. as wives of the grandson of the Prophet sallAllahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam]

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  4. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    This is true and well known. Imam Hasan radi Allahu 3anhu married and divorced a lot. The aim was to increase the progeny of the Prophet 3alaihis salam. The sahaba too were well aware of this hikmah and just as they would sacrifice their own lives in jihad, they and their daughters readily agreed to be agents of increasing the Prophet's 3alaihis salam progeny. When Hazrat Ali karram Allahu wajhah said on the minbar (not direct quote) o people don't give your daughters to my son Hasan he marries them and divorces them after some months/days, one of the sahaba got up and said (not direct quote) o Ameerul Mumineen, we are happy and blessed that Allah is using our daughters to increase the progeny of the Prophet 3alaihis salam.

    Hazrat Ali too did a lot of nikah's at a later stage in his life, again, to increase the Hashmi progeny. However, during Sayyidah Nisaa Al-3alameen's radi Allahu 3anha life, he was married only to her. These many nikah's happened some years after she passed into Allah's Mercy.

    very bizarre claim, never heard it before. in fact, afaik, within Sayyids, Hasani Sayyids are considered more senior to Husayni Sayyids!

    Sorry no daleels. Anyways, I just mentioned it summarily. I read it before many years. Also Shah Turabul Haq sahib rahimahullah said this what I mentioned here- in one of his audios. Please search on AhleSunnat.Net on their audio files.
  5. ramiz.noorie

    ramiz.noorie Active Member

    Can brother Abu Hasan or any knowledgeable brother answer this.

    In my recent trip to haramain (ongoing) met many scholars of sunni aqida but some of the Habaib I came across say that Imam Hasan married more than 100 women and used to marry and divorce to the point that his father sher e khuda Hazrat Ali used to say don't marry your women to my son.

    What is the truth in this claim because these habaib are saying true sayyids are only from hazrat Hussain line..

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