Shaykh Asrar debates Nooruddin

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Nooruddin's clarification


He seems to suggest that Hasan first tried to 'defend' the statement by not translating it and instead adding his own explanation that 'it was a spiritual state'. He then concludes that this amounts to Hasan 'justifying the statement', then changing tact in the 'debate'.

 

The irony of those who are on a unity flex is how their tongue and pen is harsh on those who are staunch Sunnis.

 

Yes he does seem very focussed on the Barelwis for some reason. I don't think he has gone to the same extent for the Deobandis.


You are right, he didn't affirm kufr for the individuals - he said the statements are abhorrent and shouldn't be explained and it's wrong.

 

Not sure he went quite as far as affirming the kufr of the individuals but seems to recall him saying the statements were bad etc. I'd be interested to know whether he conducted that same WhatsApp exercise with Deobandi Muftis, students etc and whether they took the same line as us usman of bradford with Mufti Bandylawi of defending the statements.

 

I think he has condemned 3 statements of the deobandi akabir already. it's part of the video that started this whole thing off.

 

Noora had to dash to the Gents after drinking all that water

 

Pai Asrar needs to learn his lesson and stop hanging out with these idiots.

 

Yes, totally agree with this seeing how he's come across as a 'defender'.

 

now that he has ostentatiously declared that he is interested in "defending the Prophet sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam", brothers must hand over a printed excerpt of devbandi blasphemies and ask if these statements are kufr or not? if it is proven that the person said this, does he become kafir or not?

very simple. if he doesn't respond, he is a shameless hypocrite.

why, he can take a saying from a book written centuries ago, attributed to a personality who lived even more centuries ago, and from a language he cannot understand and begin dishing out a fatwa of kufr - why can't he do the same with devbandi blasphemies?

devbandi blasphemies are in urdu - and english translations available. but will nooruddin show his "i don't care..." attitude?

scared nooruddin? scared that zameel {the devil} will come after you?

 

nooruddin is stupid.

 

Is he Sunni?

 

Not sure if he is Kashmiri but he is highly rated by Shaykh Samir. Both Noor and Asrar Sahib are Ustad Pais

Noor needs to follow the advice of the Shaykh and put his hands up and say I do not know.

 

Unrelated but Is there any way to access the resources that were shared on the Telegram channel 'Reality of Deobandis,' since it appears to have been deleted

 

This guy nooruddin seems to be the kashmiri (if he is) version of piers Morgan- dumb as a rock and incredibly deceptive with no bone of integrity.

 

Pai Asrar and the young kids did a good job in exposing Noor.

Noor needs to go back to the classroom