human dignity and mutual respect

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  1. Wadood

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    Its strange he mentions Belgium and then Africa so much. Concentrates on them, including Congo [formerly Zaire].

    Any history student can tell you that during the colonial era right up to the 40s, the idol worshipping belgian catholics committed the most brutal genocide against the native african population while they looted the country's natural resources. Its well documented. They are the ones who converted the natives to catholocism


    Allah's Zameen is vast. These disadvantaged Muslims can migrate elsewhere where they will not be disadvantaged. Surely, there are plenty of such places [such as the almost 60 Muslim countries]
     
  2. Wadood

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    But idol worshipping non-monotheistic catholicism DOES have a privileged relationship with that continent. Its so naive to say no.

    Surely, now someone will say Islam does not have a privileged relationship with the Middle East, Asia Minor, North Africa, and the Caucasus either, when infact it does.
     
  3. Wadood

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    The Holy Land is Islamic Land. Its Muslim land on which non-Muslim minorities live. Palestine is not just occupied territories, it includes all of palestine that used to be.

    The above is trivial media nonsense. I dont think this paper deserves a doctorate. My little brother can make better talk.

    europe's idol worshipper.

    usury?
     
  4. Wadood

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    I think he is really being funny here.

    and what do we achieve in the end?

    Is TJ Winter an Islamic Scholar? Can a student of Habib Mashhur raHimahuAllah speak like the above?
     
  5. Wadood

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    Look, in the above and the entire article he fails to mention the sayhoonis, who run the real show, and camouflages them under a country's name, even though that country is not even catholic.

    He's doing what the media is doing albiet through this paper.

    And if you ask a Muslim courageous youth on the Street of the Islamic World, who he fears, he will say he fears no one except Allah ta'ala.

    Do Muslims fear crusaders? naaah. They are the least of our worries.
     
  6. Wadood

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    I disagree. The flaws in the paper are obvious. A well brought up Muslim youth from any Islamic Street in the Islamic World can easily point them out.

    But we in the west know more than the Muslim youth in the Islamic World. May be thats why brother AbdalQadir is talking about the craftiness. TJ Winter is giving the example of Rashid Rida the british spy, because thats one of the aims of this document. And to concentrate on Rashid Rida, even though TJ Winter has been in Islamic World for a couple of years studying with Sunnis, and not mention 1000+ years of views of the dominant Sunni Scholarship is strange.

    The piece written by another British Cambridge Professor, who is TJ Winter's partner there, and that I posted in the Kalam Research thread in the Refutations section, says on page 14, significant Sunni participation is necessary. Then why does TJ Winter not present the view of 1000+ years of Sunni Scholarship on his proposal for Muslim interaction with idol worshipping catholics?

    Who are the less cultivated Muslims? He did not explain. Rashid Rida's followers are no more than 10% of the Islamic World, and shiite sects no more than 10%. But are the less cultivated Muslims among the 80% Sunni Muslim World. If they are, who are they?
     
  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    an excellently crafted paper of superior intellectual quality indeed! just reading it makes one want to confer an honorary doctorate upon the author.

    http://acommonword.com/en/a-common-word/16-conferences/297-human-dignity-and-mutual-respect.html

     

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