Ilm e Gaib

actually, from personal experience, most Indian vaabi's are utter jaahil.

They don't go beyond "extracts" of "abridged translations" culled from sanitized versions of ibn-e-kasper and ibn-e-thomas books.

I live in a heavily wahabi dominated area and most relatives are wahabis and yet I have not seen a single well read person among them - not in three generations! - only illiterates who give home-cooked fatwa from kindergarten level "books".

 

actually you give us your scolar mobile number, and our scolar will explain everything to your scolar in a way that he can explain to you.

It's best if two scolars talk on mobile!

 

lol - which truth?

didn't you say we are shi'ah? then why do you want to learn truth from all of us?

 

Asalam Alaikum

Brothers please do not entertain this fool any longer. @abu Hasan do as Imām Mālik did.

 

the reference is in English not Arabic. Maybe it's time you saw an opthalmologist?

 

I don't know arabic..it looks like you people do not understand English...I want you all to explan in this thread...so that all come to know the truth....I asked simple question...explan 7:187.

 

it's given in that post.

i'm not going to repeat it just to prove that not only are you illiterate in Arabic, you're also totally zero in reading and understanding basic english.

 

I asked a simple question...explain 7:187...you should have explained in this thread...instead of just pasting some link...I was expecting explanation either from hadees or tafseer ibn e Kasper etc...I think I m wasting time here...give me your scolar mobile number I will call them..

I asked a simple question..p

Which tafseer book...provide book name n reference number...

I dont run away..plz ask your barelwi (shia) alim to explain the verse...

 

see? you don't know english either. you are just repeating the same question which i have already answered. perhaps you must read again.

toddlers have the habit of repeating the questions endlessly, even when adults patiently try to explain it to them. when you grow up, and have kids you will understand what i mean. it is common for a 9-year old to keep repeating the same thing ad nauseum.

also, repeating the same question is a sign of running away. don't run away.

 

Which tafseer book...provide book name n reference number...

I dont run away..plz ask your barelwi (shia) alim to explain the verse...

 

now brother AQ could have translated it. i can translate it too, alHamdulillah - there are dozens of brothers on this forum who can translate it for you, in sha'Allah. but i fear that you will not accept our translation. therefore, we have given you the arabic.

if you are capable, you can translate it too - or copy-paste from some place like you have done below. but if you want a translation from us, you will have to ask - upon the condition that if you do not accept it, you will have to give reasons why you won't accept it. you cannot just say: i don't accept it and 'run away'.

 

aren't you a good muslim who loves the qur'an and tries hard to follow its commands?
if the answer to the above is yes, then you must furnish proof for the above.

what is your proof that 'barelwi' ulama are shiah. unless you are talking about some shiyi folk masquerading as barelwis.

in case you are not aware and are confused and misled by wahabi liars, let me define 'barelwis' for you. barelwis are those who follow imam ahmad riDa khan and his students.

so where did you find 'shiasm' in alahazrat imam ahmad riDa khan's -raDiAllahu anhu's books?

perhaps you have not seen them. i invite you to check some of the imam's works and if you find anything shiah inclined in it, please post it here.

https://www.ridawi.org/alahazrat-books-download/

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it was not needed - but needn't have sneered. but since YOU started it, i am forced to ask you for proof. if you do not have proof, you can take it back and we won't mind. but you must respond in some way. one shouldn't run away.

https://www.ridawi.org/objections/he-was-a-shiyi/#charge

 

why are you so keen on learning from shi'ah?

 

That's the attitude... all you had to do was promise you'll stay, and ask nicely saying please.

There you go - this is tafsir of the latter part of the verse, from Imam Baghawi's Ma3alim.

{قُلْ إِنَّمَا عِلْمُهَا عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ}
أَنَّ عِلْمَهَا عِنْدَ اللَّهِ حَتَّى سَأَلُوا مُحَمَّدًا صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْهَا​

 

I dont run away..plz ask your barelwi (shia) alim to explain the verse...

 

we are not running away, but we first need assurance that you will not run away.

this is not a one-way street - you ask questions and demand answers and compare us to shaytan; but when we ask you a question, you do not answer - or in your language: 'run away'.

so if you can assure me that you will not "run away", i will probably engage with you. can you give us this assurance?

 

Abdalqadir, abuhasan, alibaksh and all..plz be on topic n explain 7:187..... you all are running away from that verse like Shaitan run away from Quran...

 

You are not answering on the topic...just running g around like a Shaitan when Quran is recited....plz explain 7:187...

 

going by the link in his profile pic, his english is just atrocious

https://www.islamfactcheck.in/why-eid-e-milad-is-unislamic/
https://www.islamfactcheck.in/does-allah-have-shape/

looks like he just learnt english, and literal english translations of some verses and ahadith

at least he's not devbandi
https://www.islamfactcheck.in/786-and-taweez/

might as well even be an outright fake and phishing site - people from india, be careful of this guy's site!
https://www.islamfactcheck.in/ayodhya-a-muslim-perspective/

 

If you have a look at his description he has a link to his own website which is very dodgy and he seems to be a anthropomorphist.

Kind of reminds of me when Imām Mālik was approached by a Man asking how did Allāh rise above the throne