Mufakkir e Islam Debate

oh-oh. this thread is taking a new turn and moving towards the ashrafi-rizvi debate.

i think, we should all take a break.

 

alhamdulillah India and Pakistan has MANY Ulama on the maslak of Ahl alSunna.

Sayid Madani Mia, Sayid Hashmi Mia, Maulana Ilyas Qadri, Mufti Ashraf alQadiri, the Ulama of Jamia Ashrafia, the Ulama of Jamia Nizamiya, the Ulama of Jamia Ashrafia, the Ulama of Bahawalpur, the Ulama of Jamia Naeemia.

A massive list can be made.

 

In case Abu Hasan does not know, the murids of Pir Abdul Qadir of Walthamstow have named him 'Imam e Ahle Sunnat' and he has also been named 'Mujaddid'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNg-yewYYM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmY0sQ71S0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2cJSLuIXE&feature=player_embedded

 

as well as beng the blood of Ala Hazrat, hazur tajush shariah is one of the very few ulamaa that "ARE" on maslak e Ala Hazrat, along side Hazur Muhaddith e Kabeer Allama Zia Ul Mustafa. im talking the indo pak region as standard. so if you criticise or distance yourself from him you distance yourself from Ala Hazrat himself

 

you mean, there is a new one?




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a person used to refer to himself as the father of nation; when questioned, he pointed out to his son and said, 'he is my son and his name is 'nation'

 

although i do agree with brother kattarsunni that zahid rizvi sahib and co. have often called great ulama of the past unacceptable things, i also do not think that any ONE individual today can be called the standardbearer of ahle sunnah.

certainly though, as sayyid yaqoubi has said, and as we have said all along, for muslims from the indian subcontinent (including those in the diaspora) --and as stated by the illustrious Imam e Ahle Sunnah himself (and not the new one!) --if anyone doesn't love (or unfairly criticises) Sayyidina Ala Hazrat :ra: it is a good sign of that person being not a Sunni.

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i dont think this squabbling amongst our "scholars" is going to end any time soon. Best thing to do is go and read a book and leave them to it!

 

one can almost hear this thread imploring us to be locked...

 

What did fida do?

 

Those that try and seperate themselves from Maslake Ala Hazrat will never be successful as Maslake Ala Hazrat is Maslake Ahle Sunnat. What can be said about a person that speaks against a man from amongst the men of Allah, il leave that to you abu fadl to ponder over. In times of great fitna that we are living in we need people like Allama Akhtar Raza khan (May Allah protect him) for he is the true representitive of sunniyat!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=uUzlUMeUobs

Zubda tul Tahqiq (above) of Mufakkir e Islam in ten minutes was refuted by Maulvi Jalali yesterday. A good quality recording should be uploaded.

Mufakkir e Islam also talked about the Hadith quoted by Maulana Jalali on Friday in Rawalpindi. If Imam e ahly Sunnats Murids can upload the lecture please for us to see.

A proper debate should start via youtube.

 

Typical. Now that you are cornered you will resort to swearing, and if that is not enough violence.

 

My view is that fida rizvi in that video did not need a swearword but needed a smack. He seemed to be content that he got away lightly.

How does saying things against Molana Akhter Raza make you a non-sunni? Molana Madni Mia/Molana Hashmi Mia and others have talked against him lots of times and you cannot say they are not Sunni. He does not own sunniat.

 

Remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QZ77-1QQU

There are many speeches like this. Some of the brothers have the videos. It is nothing secret. People can check with Zahid themselves.

He says 100% Nasibis today are Barelawis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF4n5Vhdiuc

 

SubhaanAllah! May Allah protect Hazoor Taajush Sharia Allama Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan the torch bearer of Maslake AlaHazrat.
Truly a rose from the blessed garden of Ala Hazrat RadiAllahu Ta'ala anhu.

I wonder what the blessed Sheikh thinks about the current situation, where so called rizwis and lovers of Ala Hazrat, are going against the teachings of the great imam and putting doubts in to the minds of muslims regarding the true aqidah of Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamah.

 

i dont care who you are and where you come from. ANYONE pointing fingers and saying ill things about ulama e haq of bareilly sharif for example hazur tajush shariah allama mufti akhtar raza khan. they definitely not sunni. the end

 

qadrimuslim said:

1 Maulana Haneef Qureshi Sahib is not neautral toward anyone side.

2 None of the Ulama of Ahl alSunna have told people to drop nara e haidari.

3 Allama Saeed Ahmed Asad Sahib still holds the same opinion and rightly so.

4 The fasad has only been caused by Pir Sahib of Walthamstow. Prior to him no-one made a fuss regarding these issues.

We are not a jama'at with people who insult compnions and ulama like Imam Ghazali and Imam Bukhari along many others.

Maulvi Zahid Rizvi has also called Mufti Ahmed Yar Khan Na'imi a Nasibi. Maulvi Zahid Rizvi has also stated that todays Nasibis are the so called 'Barelawis'.

Pir Sahib of Walthamstow said 'hasr' limitation is lazim with this tarkib.

This is not always true.

 

Mufti Asif Ashraf Jalai speech on Haqq Chaar Yaar

They are the brother of Mufti Abid Jalali

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=BZdZhH2cyKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=BAZ8xv9JnnI

 

Maulana Jalali's latest speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo189DLPSLE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

 

I feel like crying, honestly. I remember when pir sahib were the pride
Of Sunnis in the uk. This debate was a terrible idea.