Shaykh Nazim has passed

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  1. AbdalQadir

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    from Shanawazgm's linked article

    http://nurmuhammad.com/NaqshbandiSecrets/qutbanniyya.htm

    can anyone provide a reference for that underlined part in red please?
     
  2. AbdalQadir

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    so what is the solution and how do we implement it? or do we just sit silent and let zandaqah flourish?

    who all does this apply to? is it even inclusive of the likes of thanwi and gangohi?
     
  3. kattarsunni

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    @ Yasser Rashid: Why Muslims cannot form committee's to discuss differences:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27321942

    Potha laymen who are better off then 'religious practicing' people:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIS88HNAjRk

    watch the guy at 13 min 30 sec onwards shout 'ya Ali' radiyAllahu anhu.

    In this day and age discussing deviancy in many cases can be counter productive to what we want to achieve.

    @ Sakti: I think he was referring to UK based Pakistani Ulama and not those in Pakistan.
     
  4. Ghulam

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    'Why haven't they formed any proper committee which decides on REAL issues; among such issues would be Shaykh Nazims iman'

    then

    'The bottom line is it wouldn't affect ones akhira'

    Cuzz what do you mean by this

    'It's dangerous for lay persons to express their views about major people (major in a societal sense not actual or real sense)'

    Would it be more dangerous for lay people to express their views about major people in the 'actual or real' sense? Especially when 'major people' in the societal sense like keller and mark misquote major people in the actual and real sense and lie about them?

    'Major people' in today's societal sense is that determined by facebook likes / celebrity status?
     
  5. shahnawazgm

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    The Sultan for the West

    Some more stuff to ponder upon taken from http://nurmuhammad.com/NaqshbandiSecrets/qutbanniyya.htm

    Note that the "Sultan ul awliya" is even higher than the Ghaus of the era, which totally contradicts what Ala Hazrat or any of the past scholars have stated!

    Another worthy point to note from the link is

    I wish someone would be so generous to we poor souls of the "East" who have had an upbringing in Islam from childhood!

    Another interesting attribute...

    No wonder Tim Winters and Mark Hanson think that they are the leading figures in Islam today.

    If only Sultan ul awliya would have done something for a poor Eastern soul like me then maybe I too could have had confirmed salvation. Unfortunately I will still need to strive my best...

    Another final quote from the link..

    Perhaps George Bush/Tony Blair might have listened to one of the Sultan's lectures about those particular sins of killing Muslims, zina etc. Hence they no longer have to avoid the sin as they anyway will not be held accountable for it!
     
  6. Muhammad Sakti

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    Pakistani Sunni 'Ulamā who annexed themselves to the Maslak of Imām Ahmad Razā Khān:

    1. al Muhaddith al Kabīr Shaykh Sardar Ahmad - Taught hundreds. Forged the mainframe for Hadīth Scholarship in Pakistan.

    2. Muftī Fayz Ahmad Uwaysī - Authored 5000+ books, including a 25+ volume commentary on the 'Sunan' of alDaraqutnī.

    3. Muftī 'Abd alQayyūm Hazārawī - Principal of the Nizamiyya. Produced hundreds of Sunni 'Ulama. First individual to initiate work on the 30 volume Fatawa Rizviyya.

    4. Shaykh alHadīth Ghulām Rasūl Rizvī - Founder of the Nizamiyya. Author of both an Arabic commentary of the Qur'ān and the Sahīh of alBukhārī.

    5. Allāma Abd alHakim Sharaf Qadirī - Teacher to hundreds. Translator/author par excellence - penned the best work on Imam Ahmad Raza's academic career in light of past transmitted sunni tradition.

    6. Seyyid Saīd Ahmad Kāzmī - Ghazali e Zamān (an epithet accepted by all). Teacher to hundreds. Author of a number of works.

    And the list goes on.

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    To exaggerate repetition of emotive keywords like 'unity', 'love', 'peace' etc. like the perpetual litany of someone experiencing acute delirium, only displays an expression of hyperbole emotion. Consider Rhetoric vs Reality (not Seyyid Nazim's iman kind of reality, as "the bottom line is it wouldn't affect one's akhira", but the kind of 'actual' reality of the above 'Ulama.

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    Words alone don't get you free Obamacare:

    http://m.washingtonpost.com/opinion...e75002-47ec-11e3-a196-3544a03c2351_story.html
     
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  7. AbdalQadir

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    why not?
     
  9. Yasser Rashid

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    Abdul Qadir get a life bro. You're chatting it for many reasons. Among them reasons is the fact that no paki scholar claiming maslak of Imam Aad Rida Khan has really done any justice to that claim. To begin with, these Brelwi 'Ulama, in the west at least, have no proper professional unity among themselves. Why haven't they formed any proper committee which decides on REAL issues; among such issues would be Shaykh Nazims iman. And also among such issues would be methodological and constructive criticism of innovators. Then- and only then- would those Brelwi Sunni 'ulama be taken seriously (or more importantly their views would be taken seriously) by everyone only due to their level of professionalism and therefore probativeness. And nothing else. At the moment it's in shambles my friend. Because genuine scholars even seem fake only because they air their views on sellout mosque platforms. Your argument may be true for the most part but holds no weight only due to this reason alone. Wadood has a solid point above, but again that isn't enough when speaking about individual and more recent innovators.
    The majlis al 'ulama must be formed in England by young English speaking students such as Shaykhs: Yasin, Munawwar, Asrar, Sjad, Amjad, et al. And their teachers may also be invited to join of course.
    It's dangerous for lay persons to express their views about major people (major in a societal sense not actual or real sense).
    The bottom line is it wouldn't affect ones akhira
     
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    Waleikum as salaam wa rahmatullahi wa barkatahu

    Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

    O Allaah, Your servant and the son of Your maidservant is in need of Your mercy and You are without need of his punishment. If he was righteous then increase his reward and if he was wicked then look over his sins ... Ameen

    Salam
     
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    Yes, it seems to have been deleted
    https://twitter.com/Shaykh_Monawwar
     
  12. AbdalQadir

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    please see www.ahlesunnat.net in the Q&A section. the library has grown immensely and they use jpegs of urdu-script questions as links to the audio, so a text search is also difficult. or perhaps use the contact link and ask the webmaster

    i think it was linked on here as well before.
     
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    إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون البقاء لله
     
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    https://facebook.com/shaykhabulhuda....355993.18855777579/10152536091862580/?type=1

    Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi
    Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani has passed away at the age of 92

    It is a sad day when such a great man of Allah leaves this world. With a lot of grief and sadness we announce the passing away of the great Qutb and Murshid, shaykh Muhammad Nazim Al-Haqqani, who passed away today Wednesday and was buried in Cyprus at Asr time.

    We offer our condolences to his Khalifa and son, shaykh Mehmet and to his family and students around the world.

    It is a big loss to the Muslim Ummah, so we pray that Allah compensate this Ummah.

    We request all our brothers and sisters and students to recite Fatiha for his blessed pure soul and do as many khatem of al-Qur'an as possible.

    May Allah reward you all.
     
  15. Haqbahu

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    Where can this be found?
     
  16. Haqbahu

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    There is no message related to Nazim Haqqani on the page of Shaykh Monawwar anymore. Apparently he has deleted it.
     
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    Sunnis should have a booklet that explains to them the basic essentials of faith:

    1) Aqeeda and faith [ regarding Allah, His Rasool, Ahl al Bayt and Sahaba ]
    2) Correct Adab [ to differentiate the adab that brother Saeed Malik was talking about ]
    3) Jurisprudence , Tasawwuf, and meaning of Jahd, spiritual or in war

    That is all.
     
  18. AbdalQadir

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    i just wish Shaykh Monawwar or any contemporary was as switched on about the world's heretics as Ala Hazrat was.

    those who don't know of this person's heresies can be accorded husn az-zdhann.

    those who do know, have no excuse. they are with them and against Islam and Muslims.

    in essence there is no difference between nazim and tahir

    especially the Muslims of a country or region should be well aware of the heretics and heresies of that region.

    if perhaps someone like Shah Turabul Haq Sahab of pakistan or Tajush Shari3ah wasn't aware of his heresies, it is understandable (incidentally Shah Sahab has warned against this (dead?) dajjal kazzab before)

    but really if Shaykhs Asrar Rashid or Munawwar Ateeq and others like them, aren't aware of the sayings and doings of people like nazim and mark hanson and ali jifry and hisham kabbani and so on, with the greatest respect to them, it is really detrimental to the cause of Islam and Ahlus Sunnah, even if we go with the husn az-zdhann that their plates are already full with their existing projects to help the ummah.

    our shaykhs need to know more about the world around them, especially about people in their own "industry" of da3wah and teaching and learning
     
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