If the work is to expose any person who is brainwashing people on the matters of Aqaid, clad in a Sunni Aalim's outfit and in reality having a Wahhabi aqeedah and teacher, then our energy is utilised very efficiently, Thank you .. If you get fiqh lessons from Khalid Mahmud, first of all i would urge you to stop it then and there and instead go upto learned Sunni teachers. 'cause people like khalid mahmud cannot teach you the "Fa" of Fiqh. become the student of any Learned Sunni Aalim. And related to banning.. If the people of my mosque know about aqeedah of Khalid Mahmud, or who he is, They will not allow even your shadow to fall on the Masjid which I attend, let alone entering it .. ALLAH 'AZZAWAJAL is HAQQ
if i was in charge, i would not let you lecture at my masjid because your teacher is a known innovator. why would i let the student of a known innovator who condemns ahlu's sunnah as mushriks and bid'yis lecture at my mosque? this is befuddling. you have given the example of you taking fiqh which gives the impression that dabbagh only fiqh from khalid too which is not true. wrong. and again. brilliant. use the word obviously so that readers take it as a given. where are the papers?
Im absolutely devestated to see how fast you guys are at pointing fingers. All the energy used so incredibly wrong. The man who taught me math is a kafir, what does that make me? The woman who taught me tajwid is a wahabi, what does that make me? If I went and got fiqh lessons from this Khalid Mahmud, would you guys ban me and my students from your mosques? If you did I wouldnt be sad about it at all. As this action from your side would be the direct opposite of what our beloved Prophet (salla Llahu 'alayhi wa sallam) taught us. He (salla Llahu 'alayhi wa sallam) knew every single munafiq in Madina by name, but didn't say that such and such a person is not a Muslim and such and such a person is a Muslim. Then WHO are me and you to say this person is a sunni and this person is not. This Ahmad Dabbagh guy has obviously signed some papers saying that he has a sunni aqida but you guys still insist on black listing him. Have some fear of Allah, and fear pointing a condemning finger against the wrong people. Who knows, your wrong accusings might make this man a wali Allah; if he already isn't one. Wa Allahu alim.
ahmad dabbagh's real name is abdul waheed. his website still lists zakariya kandhalwi deobandi's khasayil e nabawi and ashraf ali thanwi deobandi's nashru't teeb as books that they take from. the molwis of jama'at e ahle sunnat are treading a very slippery slope. we all know that sardar ahmad qadri and ghulam rabbani afghani have always had a soft spot for deobandis so, no, it doesn't mean dabbagh is a sunni just because they invited him. when i spoke to afghani last year, after i said to him that dabbagh associates with deobandis, he had the gall to ask me: "who doesn't meet with deobandis? don't you meet deobandis?" i said: no, i don't meet with deobandis. he said all the ulama meet deobandis. i asked: does irfan mash'hadi meet deobandis? this left him speechless. his questions to me clearly show that he knows dabbagh associates with deobandis and that is why afghani tried to generalise this to all sunni ulama so as to say: so what if dabbagh meets them, so do all the ulama. --- i know mawlana rasul bakhsh sa'eedi is part of the jama'at too. the only thing i can think of right now is for his students to talk to him about this dangerous man and that jama'at e ahle sunnat should abandon him pronto.
And whoever has done that will not be called a Sunni by a pesron who is in the right state of his mind.. And why do people reject the fatawa of kufr by Sarkaar A'ala Hazrat Rahmatullah Alayh, which was given to the deobandi leaders not only by him but the Major Scholars of 'Arab and 'Ajam too.? ALLAH HAAFIZ
He very recently did a programme in Gul Rehman's mosque. I have had a funny feeling about the Birmingham Jamat since I saw them supporting Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri's stance on Deobandis against Sunni Ulama such as Syed Zahid Ridwi (it was about Deobandis and Ala Hazrat). This was in the 80s. Sardar Qadri has took khilafat from him now, I think Afghani Rabbani has taken something too.
there undercover deobandits by the look of things, just like ala hadrat warned that they have disguised themselves in the garb of sunnis
i don't know about 'jinn master' as i haven't ever met Ahmad Dabbagh however the stance quite a few followers of tariqah muhammadiya have towards the deobandi's is alarming enough. meeting them at the manchester annual na'at conference reminds me of the asif hussain farouqi murids stance towards the deobandis.
They are selling the deen on the cheap. Ahmed Dabbagh is a jinn master, he must of worked it on the like of these mullahs. They have now done talks at charles road and Molvi chakswaris masjid in the past year. I ve been told ghamkol sharif won't allow them to use their venue again.
what on earth is wrong with the molwis of the group called jama'at e ahle sunnat in birmingham? sardar ahmad qadri and ghulam rabbani afghani rolled out the red carpet for dabbagh at last years sunni conference. then we heard of him being invited to run a course at ghulam rasul chakswari's masjid and now gul rahman has hosted him. have they forgotten that khalid mahmud deobandi is dabbagh's teacher? why have they not approached the sunni ulama of bolton who have sat down with dabbagh and who have first hand experience and proof of his deviancy? let these molwis not forget: you willl be questioned by Allah for letting this deobandi lover into sunni masjids so that he can deceive the sunni 'awam.
Are you sure Ahmed Dabbagh is not a sunni? Has he said anything which would lead you to this conclusion? I ask because the mosque u mention is charles road mosque and i am 100% sure that they wouldnt let him come there if he wasnt sunni.
His also the teacher of Hafiz waheed, more famously known as Ahmed Dabbagh nowadays and trying to portray himself as a sunni, yesterday he was doing another talk at a sunni masjid in bham.
It is paramount that we protect our youth from ahlul bid'a. The Sunni masses must dissociate themselves from ahlul bid'a. Dont the wahabis avoid us Sunnis, calling us 'grave worshippers'? Has anyone ever seen how the deobandis/wahabis go crazy, when a mosque holds a 'barelwi' event? I have seen it ALL OVER North America. They even try their best to convince the neutral mosques not to hold mawlids of the 'barelwis'. I have seen it with my own eyes. Its their top scholars doing it. These scholars were trained from top deobandi/wahabi madrasas in Gujarat, India. If Habib Ali sits with wahabis, and rafidis in Kuwait, its because he is a qualified da'i. And those wahabis and those rafidis are not giving lectures to Sunni youth, a point that Aqdas is emphasizing. So this is the difference. As for adaab in dealing with ahlul bid'a, then that is a separate topic Would Salman al-Oda or the twelver shia 'scholars' that Habib Ali met in Kuwait be allowed to lecture the masses of youth in Dar al-Mustafa? I don't think so. Sunnis should recognize blackmail and point it out CLEARLY.
the brothers can answer better but we can try explaining to them the evils of associating with ahlu'l bid'ah. see my post above about hadith and sayings about its evils.
assalam mualaikum brother aqdas i understand ur point loud n clear as u were referring to the scholars who are lenient 2wards deobands i absolutely detest scholars of such nature.however what abt ppl with the same mentality?i dont know the situation in the u.k but here in S.A the stats show 80% of sunnis are 'sula kulliyat' so how do we tackle this problem?
