advice from kanz al huda

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    In times such as these there is an added dhwaq in reciting and reflecting upon this hadith, for it is the beacon of hope, the promise about a light that shines so bright that it blinds the eyes of darkness and folly and obliges them to drop shut:

    ان الله تعالى يبعث لهذه الامة على رأس كلّ مائة سنة من يجدد لها دينها

    Verily Allah the Exalted will send forth for this nation, at the head of every century, one who will rejuvenate and restore for it it's Deen.

    jahaaN mein aam paygaam-e-shah-e-ahmad raza kar de
    palat kar peechhe dekhe phir se tajdeede wafa kar de

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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i read page 64 and smiled. utter cluelessness and self-contradiction.

    the author laments "condition of the age", which is good enough to ignore all other opinions about ijtihad and taqlid* - but closes his eyes firmly shut and probably uses superglue to ensure no light enters, when issuing the fatwa of 'follow whomsoever you like'.


    interesting. if the author mentions khulasatu't taHqiq of nablusi in this shahkar.

    because, all these opinions are mentioned in khulasah concerning taqlid. the author has decided that all of those cases are invalid in our time; it remains to be seen whether he advocates the pick-and-choose anyone from the four madh'habs anytime, abu hamza has been advocating.
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  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    doesn't matter. we will also see how much merit the book has. unlike some people we are not blind.

    @Harris786 : please don't behave like a nasty toddler. am getting irritated and i will ban you if you don't behave. 'behave' means, don't sneer and don't go about basir-like-whataboutery. if you make a sensible post, it will stay, else you have littered more than your share. don't tempt me.
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  4. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    you have misspelled, it should be maslak e i'tizaal. I have not read it yet, but what you have quoted from kanz is sufficient to believe that it should be maslak e i'tizaal from hanafi fiqh.
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  5. Harris786

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  7. Bazdawi

    Bazdawi Well-Known Member

    nor has there been any response to mawlana abu hasan'a rebutall of pir sahibs claim of being able to prove that qawwali is permissible according to fatawa ridawiyya. the video is which pir sahib said this also seems to have pulled a vanishing stunt.
  8. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    The refutation of those who declare the Ulama as Fasiq on differed upon issues in the Madahib Arba’ah

    The following is a response to those who have been criticising the jurisdictive differences of opinion held by Kanz ul Huda Intl. and its leadership pertaining to such topics as the use of Musical instruments in Sama, Videography, Photography, Raqs & the timings of Suhoor /Nisf ul Layl etc.

    On several occasions Kanz ul Huda Intl. has advised the Awaam (general public), and their termed “scholars” to desist in issuing out verdicts of Haram (impermissibility) and Fisq (impiety) on the Sunni Ulama (scholars) for matters that have no consensus and several differing opinions in the four Madahib. Although there is no consensus regarding the above mentioned issues, there is however a strong and clear consensus regarding the Hurmah (prohibition) of cursing and accusing Sunni Ulama of Fisq, which in itself is undoubtedly Haram Bil Ijmah (prohibited with consensus). Not only have the laymen fallen victim to this major blunder, but regrettably so have many Ulama.

    For several years the members of Kanz ul Huda Intl. have been discussing these issues privately via Social Media, and have not engaged in any public debates regarding these issues as not to allow confusion and dissension to befall the Ahlus Sunnah. However due to the collective efforts of a minority of the students of knowledge, who also call themselves Muftis, and the teachers of their respective institutes attempting to demotivate the active and enthused members of Kanz ul Huda, we are now providing the references cited by Pir Saqib Shaami (Hafidhahullah) from the works of the major and widely accepted Sunni Ulama. Additionally 3 years ago Pir Saqib Shaami (Hafidhahullah) expressed His opinion on these subjects to several major Muftis of the Ahlus Sunah, whilst also providing some references. This was a cause for concern for many and till now no response has been received.

    The following are authentic and untranslated references provided by Pir Saqib Shaami (Hafidhahullah), aimed primarily at the Ulama. The Arabic language has been employed to allow the Ulama sufficient time to contemplate before accepting the opinions expressed or prior to providing a refutation before the Awaam.

    The following subjects are covered in the Arabic text below:

    1. Does a common man have the right of declaring a scholar a Faasiq (sinner) on Mukhtalaf feeh issues (issues differed upon)?

    2. Does a common person, who is not a scholar, have the right to declare a common man a Faasiq or to accuse him of committing Haram based upon issues wherein there is ikhtilaf in the Madhab (school of jurisprudence) he follows or even the 4 Madahib?

    3. Does a scholar have the right of declaring another scholar a Faasiq based upon issues wherein there is Ikhtilaaf (debate) of the Madahib Arba’ah, The 4 authentic schools?

    4. Is it prohibited for a Hanafi to take legal rulings from the other schools and when is one guilty of Talfeeq?

    5. When does the Hanafi ruling of Tahaquq of one of the Asbaab Sitta apply in Ifta?

    6. What is the opinion of Ibn Abideen (alayhirahma) regarding the clause of Ind ad daroorah whilst taking from another Madhab? Is Ind ad daroorah also a condition in the personal practise of the Mukallaf or only in Ifta?

    In the above Arabic text sufficient answers have been presented with references from the works of the major Sunni Jurists that support the stance Kanz ul Huda Intl. has held for several years.

    It would now be interesting to know what these "Muftis" and their teachers have to say about the position of these great Sunni Ulama. An extensive lecture by Pir Saqib Shaami (Hafidhahullah) will soon also be released to further clarify and explore these subjects.

    Kanz ul Huda Intl. believes that all Sunni organisations working in the field of Dawah must take into consideration the above quoted works of the major Sunni Ulama in order to avoid accusing others of committing Haram whilst explaining or admonishing the issues differed upon.

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