Featured Book Release: The Noble Bequests - Translation of Wasaya (Alahazrat)

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    if that praise of that part and having fun makes them stronger Sunnis and saves them from the wolves, then i'm all for it. remember, correct manhaj of the Ahlus Sunnah comes before spiritual mujahada and that is in fact the number one wasiyya of Ala Hazrat, as it is of all Ahlus Sunnah before and after him
  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    if a hundred sunnis cite various passages of the wasaya and reference to the wasaya PDF of alahazrat on twitter and facebook; it will automatically figure in search results.
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  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i've said it to multiple people multiple times on multiple platforms

    we've got to stop being "nice guys"

    people need to come to terms with the fact that marketing and propaganda can and do have effect on people, let alone sheeple

    i can show you enough former Sunnis who have been brainwashed and actually dislike Ala hazrat just because of wahabi & deobandi propaganda and lies, too bad for them neither they nor their parents had enough knowledge of Sunniyat to remain firm*; much the same way you will see so many Muslims believing the whole 'war on terror' narrative in politics and stuff

    i would even go so far as to say there is no harm even in jeering and derision

    i never bothered checking the facts on this but i've heard from a lot of people that the mirza died in the toilet with his head falling straight into the toilet hole and i'm all for ridiculing and shaming the qadiyanis with this anecdote.

    likewise, i've heard about albani dying due to a cancer of the mouth or tongue. now that can happen to anyone of us (may Allah protect us and all Sunnis), but i see it a VERY fair comment to say that he got his due rewards for all the lies and misguidance he spread in the name of knowledge, and the recompense of the hereafter is something else.

    yes people can die in any circumstance**, and old age has its perils like uncontrollable diarrhea in the case of thanwi, but given the anti-Sunni propaganda and lies, i see it fine and perfectly fair to mock and deride the nasty end of dajjals like the mirza, and i for one wouldn't have had a problem even if abu Hasan used the same arrogant and deriding tone against thanwi as khalid used against Ala Hazrat. i would see it as cool if after mentioning thanwi's death he did actually say that thanwi got just one of his many just comeuppances for the blasphemous remarks.

    there are no proper leaders of Muslims who are well-wishers for Islam or Sunniyat in these times and there is no rightful jihad going on in the interests of Islam. propaganda and marketing*** are our only weapons and we have to use them as aggressively, efficiently and ruthlessly as possible in our interests. that line quoted in the book is very apt. their propaganda machine works on lies. but ours can work wonders just on the truth alone. for those who think that just telling the truth is enough and that aggressive and ruthless propaganda are counterproductive, just look around you and how many people the wahabis and deobandis are adding to their camps due to their lies coupled with aggressive and ruthless tones! in fact they take low blows like 'Ala Hazrat was black and suffered from constant back pains' (i agree this line comes from wahabis but if i'm not mistaken, it was fed to them by the devs). i see it perfectly fair to say their muftis are blind or one-eyed like the dajjal, not to mention ludicrously ugly, seriously do a google image search for people like othaimeen or ibn baz.

    your appraisal of abu Hasan's tone (Sidi abu Hasan's tone is serious and appealing to people's sense of fairness and justice) is very correct and i'm not saying the book or his tone is lacking. he said the truth about them AND also appealed to people's sense of fairness and justice. what i'm saying is that it's no problem at all if he went further than that too.


    * i admit that our HONEST BUT harsh, ruthless & aggressive propaganda and marketing should be accompanied by the RIGHT knowledge and logical analysis, not the sub-standard radd like 'deobandis don't do Milad and niyaz hahaha' that a lot of our mawlanas are famous for and excel in.

    ** and we also know that over the course of history even some greats of the ummah have faced harsh martyrdom's at the hands of the zalimeen and they have been irreverent to their bodies even after the blessed souls moved on. so we know that a harsh death is a sign of Allah's Justice in the case of the kuffar and unjust, and a sign of His Mercy in the case of those who are close to Him and a means for their statuses in front of Him becoming far more elevated and superior

    *** with the promotion and rise of perennialism, there are efforts to stop that too. i actually miss the 80's when deedat could actually say it to christians right in the royal albert hall that christianity is false and trinity leads to hellfire. imagine some of the popular 'callers to Islam' saying that even in a 'suhba' of Muslims in our times, like for instance the reviving the 'Islamic' spirit conference.

    Allah knows best
  4. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    I had read those same accusations on a wahhabi site long back, when I was still mostly clueless about ahlussunnah. Even then it was nauseating to read such obviously made up accounts. But then, lies repeated with such confidence, does have an effect on the naiive and beginners. At the time my only source of information was the internet.

    It is well that people can now read the true account by simply using the proper search terms in google. We should be mindful of SEO in places where we promote the book. If only for the poor souls who believe that the thing could not be true but do not have a counter-narrative to make themselves certain.

    It is sad that works of spirituality have been targeted so shamelessly. Deobandis have neither scruples nor honor - they are sacrilegious to the point of psychopathy.

    It is essential that the counter-narrative be made available, appended to the actual work. Sidi abu Hasan's tone is serious and appealing to people's sense of fairness and justice as opposed to the derisive and blasphemous tone employed by khalid (may he be justly recompensed).

    At the same time, his presentation style is like the dart which is sure to find it's mark. Khalid might not even have dreamt that he would be refuted so roundly and that too in a "tabular" fashion. kudos!
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  5. Haqbahu

    Haqbahu Veteran

    It would be good if somebody (from UK) takes up the task to bring all the works of Ridawipress in print.
    So that they can be offered on online bookstores like islam786books.com and alihya.org.uk.
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  6. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Shaykh Abu Hasan and elder brother Noori, i agree, thank you for clarifying.

    Have finished reading the main parts of the wasayah. honestly, with the command of English translation shown, i do not believe any writer in the west comes close to such parlance. Mostafa Badawi's translations of Imam al Haddad's epistles do not come close to the clarity and detail and assistance in understanding shown in this translation with the abundance of footnotes, knowledge from the Sunni ulama of the past thousand years, for example. It really is a read through time and history and knowledge added in supererogatory that has made my experience much more beneficial. If Shaykh Abu Hasan desires, he can bring immense benefit to the bewildered English speaking awaam of the west. i think he is a gifted [ prodigy actually ] i should start reading more and talking less before i die.

    currently reading the biographical essay of Shaykh Sayyid Muhammad Ashrafi. i always wondered about the exact timings of the appearance and acknowledgement of a mujaddid, and found it here. The discussion on chronograms is wondrous!

    It is astonishing that in a mere 5 minutes the wasaya was written. There was no wastage of time. Even in the last moments, the Wali of Allah has planned his time carefully by the Will of Allah
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  7. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    it is a fact. we are not making fun of it - like the deobandis do. we are just stating that this is how ashraf ali thanawi died according to those who were present - a first hand account. as i have said, al-iyadhu billah, we should not gloat about someone's suffering, though it is tempting to say that he got his comeuppance. illness in old-age and such conditions can happen to anyone. نسأل الله العافية

    my point is: if alahazrat's demise and wasiyyah, could be distorted by deobandis in such a grotesque manner; how would they write about about thanawi, employing the same approach? let alone distortion [as they did for alahazrat's wasaya], even an skeptical essay on the bare facts would make for an embarrasing reading.

    alahazrat did not say 'send these foods to me' - but, khalid mahmud added that lie in his 8 volume diatribe, which seems to have drawn inspiration from the sheets of thanawi's death-bed, and which is the source of pride for many "pious" deobandis who advise each other to read it.

    stop telling lies about us, we will stop telling the truth* about you.

    i think, you should begin to think before preaching.

    1. as i have already said, sunnis did not start this.

    2. sunnis initially criticised blasphemies of deobandis, which is a religious duty.

    3. when deobandis could not answer, they began to slander, abuse and vilify alahazrat. you should read darbanghi's works to fully appreciate the stink of deobandi literature. their 'pious' 'awliya' have no compunctions as they freely slander and lie.

    4. not just khalid mahmud, but every chinga-minga deobandi with online access repeats these accusations on alahazrat's wasaya.

    5. as i said: we did not start this. but if we keep quiet, they will insist this to be the truth. we are only showing them a mirror - people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
    wa billahi't tawfiq.

    Allah ta'ala knows best.

    *truth in religious affairs is a duty - that we will keep saying, in sha'Allah regardless.
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  8. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

  9. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    is it a good idea to put an appendix on refutation of deobandi lies or to expose their characters at the end of the wasaya. perhaps this could be separated into a separate book to highlight them under spotlight. like the ashraf ali diarrhea fact, which spoilt my mood once i read it. Is it necessary here? A lot of people would tend to praise that part more and have fun about it. It would get special mention, like it did in this thread, not the spiritual teaching in the wasaya that ought to be discussed.

    its my belief that Ala HaDrat was from the old Hanafi way, to use the term used by Dr. Umar Faruq Abd-Allah of Nawawi Foundation in Chicago. i think his spiritual knowledge ought to be highlighted that this work does. i am told Ala HaDrat has numerous spiritual works.

    i feel it is a spiritual work. Did Mawlana Hasnayn abridge deobandi refutation or the ashraf ali diarrhea death as appendices to his original work ?

    the part on Shaykh Mailsi in the appendix was very nice.
  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    the reference was provided by you
  11. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    here is the letter of manzur nu'mani to taqi usmani from nuqush-e-raftgaaN page 399 that sidi Abu Hasan mentioned on page 71, footnote 170.

    it is interesting to note that manzur nu'mani died in 1997, and he dictated this letter when he was in his deathbed, yet he admits that saif-an-naqi has been published from deoband recently again(7 decades after the wisal sharif of ala hazrat alaihi rahmah wa ridWan), and that too in nawaqfiyyat. why until now dubandi ulama have not acknowledged it publicly? and why they have not taken corrective measures?

    it is also funny that manzur nu'mani considers brailawies a bigger fitnah than qadyanis, then why do they call us bid'ati?

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  12. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    mashaAllah, another splendid and thoroughly researched work by sidi abu Hasan and as always it takes on the detractors "min haythu lam yaHtasib".

    jazakAllahu khayran
  13. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    Excellent point Aqdas!
  14. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Well-Known Member

    Subhan'Allah, this was an extremely pleasant read, @abu Hasan - Allah [Almighty] increase the barakah in your writings, the love you have for Sayyidi Alahazrat is truly inspiring.

    Allah [Almighty] reward all those involved.

    جزاكم اللهُ خيراً
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  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Well, the note says it all. Don't lie about us and we won't tell the truth about you. There are many such examples of the devbandis and their food antics like stealing etc.


    Prof Dr Masud Ahmad actually has a book about the wasaya - gharīboń ke ghamkhār. In it, he says that Alahazrat revived a sunnah even in the throes of death which was to look after the poor. Food from fatihah would normally be for the rich but Alahazrat revived the sunnah of feeding the poor.
  16. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    may Allah reward brother abu Hasan and the others who helped in this work. a very heart warming read.

    loved the lashing at the deobandis and citations from their own books at the end.
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  17. Harris786

    Harris786 Veteran

    MahshAllah - great read.

    Thank you
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  18. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    جزاكم الله خيرا for your dua's.

    with apologies the first ver is now removed.
    version 1.1 will be up in a few minutes. in sha'Allah.

    some corrections of grammar and punctuation; and an additional footnote; one factual error in the speech of muhaddith azam hind [4 months 22 days, NOT 20 days].

    wa billahi't tawfiq.
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2015
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  19. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    mashaAllah. May Allah Subh'nu wa Ta'ala and His beloved alaihi afDalus salaat be pleased with you, and rohani fuyuD wa barakaat of siyyiduna ala hazrat alaihi rahmah wa riDwan be showered upon you.
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  20. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    SubHaan Allah; ma sha Allah. may Allah grant an immense reward to brother abu Hasan and all those who assisted him in this noble work. Aameen.


    In the refutation of the charges leveled by Khalid Mahmud Deobandi -

    1. My religion and my creed

    Kindly consider adding the following:-

    a. Surah Kafiroon - 109:6
    For you is your religion, and for me is mine.
    لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ

    b. The Dua from Hadeeth shareef, mentioned in alWazeefat ulKareemah

    Bismillahe ala Deeni, Bismillahe ala Nafsee, wa Wuldi, wa ahli, wa Maali

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