Deobandi Fabrication in Sirat al mustaqeem

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    The Shaykh said how can someone from the subcontinent say that thinking about cows/bulls during salah is a deterrent to shirk? - it's actually the land where cows are worshipped!
     
  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Saw a message on this telegram group

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  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    الشيخ سالك بن سيدنا الموريتاني حفظه الله يبين الحكم على قول الديوبندية:

    "التفكير عن حمار في صلاتك أفضل من التفكير عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم"

    قائلا: "هذا كفر صريح!"

    معاذ الله

    Shaykh Sālik ibn Siddīna (may Allāh preserve him) explains the legal ruling on the vile statement of the Deobandīs:

    "Thinking about a donkey in your prayer is better than thinking about the Prophet ﷺ"

    معاذ الله

    Saying: "This is clear kufr!"

    https://www.facebook.com/728350647/posts/10165468909275648/
     
  4. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Well done to the brothers capturing the responses of the scholars on video. Some of these deobandis, such as hamza maqbul, have studied under these Arab scholars. Now perhaps some of them will see with clear eyes the realities of their 'students'.

    And a refutation that comes from their teachers and those they respect is more impactful than one from the 'barelwis'. Hopefully the laymen amongst the deobandis will see these videos and open their eyes also.

    Perhaps if Ala Hazrat had written Hussam today, he would have gathered the attestations of the scholars on video too, due to the need of the times and to leave no doubt.

    My speculation
     
  5. Hassan_0123

    Hassan_0123 HhhhhhhM_786

    A longer version of Shaykh Salek's response to what Abdur Raheem Limbada said has been uploaded on to YouTube. The two important parts start from 07:00 and 21:15. Please share Shaykh Salek's response with others.

     
  6. Hassan_0123

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  7. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Would be good if there was a video bro? I know he already blasted them on possibility of lying
     
  8. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    I believe shaykh salik already blasted this.
     
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  9. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    May Allah bless the shaykh

    I understand hamza maqbul studied under murabit Al hajj. Shaykh siddina, a fellow student of his, spends a lot of time in America, perhaps he could be approached? Although the deobandi already consider him to be a barelwi and whatnot.

    The more neutral scholars who come out against these fools, the better. The more of them who wake up to this fitna, the better
     
  10. Hassan_0123

    Hassan_0123 HhhhhhhM_786

    This is the response of Shaykh Qasim Salih Al Kuzaym Al Zabidi to the Abdur Raheem Limbada video

     
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    ONE of the biggest problem with sunnis is that we do not have good marketing skills or PR management like that of all other groups, especially the devbandis.

    al-isha'ah of shaykh muhammad ibn abdu'r rasul barzanji is printed with "annotations of kandhelwi"

    see here, here.

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    the book has hardly fifty annotations in a book of about 425+ pages. [i counted page by page and listed them at 49; one or two might've been overlooked]. i have given a sample of 15 from the 49 which is 30% of all notes. what could probably be the lengthiest note is also shown (see sample #2 below).

    these annotations are generic notes one makes when reading - i too make many of them and since i hate to write on books i use sticky notes.
    i do not deny that such notes of prominent scholars are useful and could be insightful. given below are samples from my copy:

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    it is fine. i do not deny that a scholar's marginal notes are also useful. but the hypocrisy of devbandi wahabis is that they would taunt us that alahazrat's "maginalia" is about few markings he had made on his copies of books and mock at it; whereas alahazrat's notes are far more in number than these and are far more insightful. yes, alahazrat's annotations also have cross references similar to above.

    my point is that deos make a big show of small things; but their hypocrisy is that if we do the same to SOME of alahazrat's books they dismiss it. not to mention alahazrat's written corpus, even a portion of which is published is so much and so rich that only an intentionally blind or a jahil or a jealous person can deny the greatness.

    abul hasan nadwi and other devbandi were both juhala and hasidin. juhala because they were deprived of the good fortune of reading alahazrat's books; hasidin is that the poisoned the pond. may Allah taala give them their just recompense. may Allah ta'ala deal with the liars abul hasan nadwi, khalid mahmud and the DESERVING OF DAMNATION, ihsan ilahi zahier (alayhi ma alayhi) with His `adl.

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    we are catching up. and in sha'Allah deobandis will have heartburn soon.
    wa billahi't tawfiq.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2021
  12. Hanafi Sunni

    Hanafi Sunni Well-Known Member

    Only one scholar form india i saw who really was into this was Mufti Akhter Rida Alaihir Rahma who translated works of Alahazrat and presented them to Arab ulema.
    He also invited arab shuyookh to speak in URS E RIDAWI.
    Mufti shamsul huda mentions how he invited SAYYID ALAWI AL MAKKI to barrielly in 2003.
     
  13. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    The Arab ulema are not interested in this dispute and the deos have done their work in this regard. What Sunnis should've focussed on was propagating 'Brelwi' beliefs as that would've got have got more traction from the Arab ulema and at the same time would've exposed the deos.
     
  14. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Some posters here may actually have direct links with arab shuykuh- perhaps get their responses in writing/video? The more awareness that is spread, the better.

    For too long, these fools have pulled the wool over the eyes of non desi's- when video/audio evidence is put to them (and the ability of the shuyukh to get their own translators if their is a claim that the video is inaccurate), then where will the deo's run?
     
  15. Hassan_0123

    Hassan_0123 HhhhhhhM_786



    The video has now been uploaded onto YouTube making it easier to share with others.
     
  16. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    The video (with arabic translation) should definitely be spread amongst arab ulema and students of knowledge and their responses taken in writing/on video- then let's see how they try to weasel out of it.
     
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  17. Hassan_0123

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  18. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    This guy thinks it's an acceptable description.

     
  19. Jazakamullah for the refutation of the Deobandiya heretic sect.
     
  20. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    Deobandi Fabrication in Sirat al mustaqeem



    The forefather of Deobandi Jamat , Ismail Dehalvee said in his book Sirat al mustaqeem:

    “ To get the thought of Prophet ( sal allahu alaihi wa sallam) in salah( prayer) is WORSE than getting the thought of Ox and Horse.”

    Urdu : Khwa janab risalat maab hee hon, apani himmat ko laga dena apany bayl aur gadhey ki surat mein mustagriq honay say ZYADAH bura hai


    The urdu word ‘zyadah” was originally used by Ismaeel Dehalvi to COMPARE the thought of prophet [ sal allahu alayhi wa sallam] with the thought of Ox and Donkey in salah ( prayer)
    This was analysed at the below link

    http://www.falaah.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96:thought-of-prophet-in-prayer--a-must-&catid=46:wahabi&Itemid=99

    In 1998 edition of this book, this word”zyadah” has been removed.

    Source : http://www.falaah.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161:deobandi-fabrication-in-sirat-al-mustaqeem&catid=42:fabrications&Itemid=92
     

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