devbandi euphemism: "issue an untrue statement"

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  1. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    Another one I found:

    https://barelwism.wordpress.com/202...r-issuing-an-untrue-statement-imkan-al-kidhb/

    Esp this part

    Al-Sharīf al-Jurjānī (740 – 816 H) said:

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    “All the Mu‘tazilah and Khawārij consider it necessary for the perpetrator of a major sin to be punished when he dies without repenting, and they do not consider it possible that Allāh pardons him for two reasons: the first, that He, exalted is He, has given a warning of punishment for major sins and foretold it, i.e. punishment for it, so had He not punished on account of a major sin and pardoned, it would entail going back on His warning and falsehood in His report, which is impossible. The answer is that the most [that can be arrived at from] this is the punishment occurring, so whence the necessity which we are discussing? Since there is no doubt that the absence of necessity together with occurrence does not entail going back [on the threat] of falsehood.* It cannot be argued that this would entail they are possible which is also impossible because we respond that their being impossible is not accepted. How [can it be accepted] when they are from the possibilities contained in His, exalted is He, power?” (Sharḥ Mawaqif, 8:331)

    Al-Siyālkūtī (d. 1067) says in explaining this passage: “If you say: Falsehood is a defect that is impossible for Him, exalted is He, by consensus, and there is no doubt that the possibility of the impossible is impossible, I say: It is evident that this discussion relates to the Mu‘tazilah who only believe in the kalām lafẓī. It has preceded that a defect in the kalām lafẓī is from the category of rational ugliness which we do not agree to. Yes, the negation of falsehood in His speech is established absolutely from the statement of the Prophet (Allāh bless him and grant him peace). As for it being a matter that is impossible in itself (i.e. intrinsically impossible) on the basis that it is a defect, then this is not accepted.”** (ibid.)


    NOTE: I agree with AlaHazrat in Subhan al Subuh and his other works
     

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