effect of jahil teachers

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    someone tipped me that this is forgery cited by qadiyanis and their infamous "pocket book" which mentions this "tarikh hamdan".

  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    there is no need to validate sayings of juhala, and the forgery/falsehood is apparent at the outset. but just in case (because of rampant ignorance) someone thinks there is some truth in it.

    i checked musnad al-firdaws of daylami, hadith listed under the letter kaaf;

    from p291 - p363; hadith nos. 4742 to 4990 (248 hadith).

    i couldn't find the purported hadith.

    i also checked another version of musnad al-firdaws, but there too, i couldn't find the "hadith".

    3/pp239-pp315 hadith nos. 4707 to 4954 (247 hadith).

    al-firdaws bi-ma'thur al-khiTab
    shirawayh ibn shahardar al-daylami al-hamdani (445-509)

    notice that the author of firdaws al-kabir was NOT born in 407 nor was the book written in 407.

    isnawi said in his tabaqat:

    "he referenced his father's book named firdaws and compiled it rather well and named it: 'firdaws al-kabir".

    in musnad al-firdaws bab al-kaf: #4861 (second version)

    it is sin enough for a man to repeat everything that he hears.
    كفى بالمرء إثما أن يحدث بكل ما سمع
  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    this is the kind of zindiq claptrap that mureeds of hosein nasr and mark hanson will (or do) subscribe to


    does any one know about the real or perceived narration quoted by the kafir, and if it is real, any commentary reference would be helpful



    this is the kind of zandaqah jahil nayak preaches

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