Excellent talks on Ibn Sina (Avicenna) & Ibn Rushd (Averroes)

Discussion in 'Links' started by absalih, Nov 21, 2010.

Draft saved Draft deleted
  1. absalih

    absalih Active Member

    Imam-i Rabbani on Ibn Sina

    Imam-I Rabbani Mujaddid e Alf Thani Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi.Rah wrote in his Maktubat 1st Volume 266th Letter
    Shaykh Huseyn Hilmi Isik adds:
  2. Sidi Wadood,
    What is the view of the Sunni ulama in Iran about him? What about the majority view in Iran?

    His achievements are quite remarkable by any standard and I'm personally inclined to accept the view that he repented as stated by Imam al-Yafi for this very reason and that it is better to have husn-e-dhann for a Muslim.
  3. Masha Allah brother chishti-raza, that is the exact passage in Malfuzat Sharif I was referring to. BTW, do you mean Salihin when you write "Swalihin'? I know some desi ulama incorrectly pronounce 'Saad' as 'swaad'!

    Look at the caution of Ala Hazrat! Subhan Allah.

    BTW last week's In Our Time was about Ibn Khaldun.
  4. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

    Regarding, Ibn Sina; Ala Hadrat has briefly discussed two views.

    The first view is that of SOME Swalihin, as mentioned in Mawlana Abd ar-Rahman Jami’s work Nafhat al-Uns. Ala Hadrat narrates that it is related in this work that a pious man was blessed with seeing the Holy Prophet (Blessings and Peace be upon him) in a dream. He asked the Holy Prophet (Blessings and Peace be upon him) about the state of Imam al-Ghazali to which the Holy Prophet (Blessings and Peace be upon him) replied that he (Imam Ghazali) had reached his goal.(1)

    Then, he asked regarding the state of Imam Fakhrudin Razi to which the answer was that ‘He is in Itaab – meaning a share for the dear ones.’

    Then, the man asked about Ibn Sina to which the reply was, 'He wanted to reach Allah without me as a medium. I gave him a bump and he landed in Tahtas-Tharaa – referring to the deepest dungeon.'

    Ala Hadrat then states that this is the VIEW OF SOME of the Swalihin while it is recorded in the Mir‘aat al-Jinaan of Imam al-Yafi`i, that Ibn Sina repented in the last years of his life. He stopped taking opium, freed his slaves and busied himself in worship. The Imam (Ahmad Raza) then states that IF he did repent as recorded by Imam al-Yafi`i, THEN May Allah shower his blessings upon him BUT he did leave behind a MASSIVE FITNA.

    (1) - Critiques and objectors of the blessed Imam, please take heed!
  5. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Do people know that Ibn Sina learned mathematics from an Indian?
  6. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    ibn sina's family converted to Nizari Ismaili Shiism from Sunni in Bukhara; not sure about him though. He seems to be a Hanafi Sunni.
  7. inna lillaha wa inna ilayhi rajióon.(I very vaguely recall something from Malfuzat Sharif of ala hadrat stating something similar and basically not agreeing with the ´he is a kafir´ statements but it´d be great if some brother could dig up the exact reference.
  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    ^I am not aware of what Ala Hazrat said about him, but this is from the wikipedia article NJ linked to.

  9. Ridwi

    Ridwi Well-Known Member

    I also remember reading in al-Malfudh Sharif regarding Ibn Sina, if I am correct Syeddi Imam Ahle Sunnah stated that he did ruju towards the end of his life.
  10. Sidi, that may be so (was Imam Ghazali so direct or did he say what is written on these issues by him is kufr? I remember vaguely (I may be wrong) something in the Malfuzat of Ala Hazrat on Ibn Sina) but what cannot be denied is Ibn Sina's massive influence in subsequent development of Islamic thought in both the Sunni and Shia world, not to mention on the West. He
    was an academic giant of the Islamic civilisation. That cannot be denied.

    Simply saying, "Hujjatul Islam declared him a kafir therefore..." wont do.
    His contributions to both medicine and philosophy [kalam] are huge; I'm not sure what his contributions were in other fields but he is considered a polymath.

    What is the opinion of the generality of the Ahlus Sunnah about him?
    As an aside, the issue currently being debated about NHM Keller on the other tread, well apparently the categorisation into categories of of Wajib al Wajood, Mumkin al Wajood etc. was originally Ibn Sina's work....
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2010
  11. Ibn Sina was declared a Kafir by Sayyidi Hujjat al-Islam al-Ghazali.
  12. Last edited: Jan 20, 2010

Share This Page