Fabrication of the Hadith of Jabir - Sh Abdullah bin Siddiq al-Ghumari

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  1. sunnistudent

    sunnistudent Veteran

    There is no doubt that Wahabbis ( deobandis/ pseudo salafis) are fabricating Islamic books.

    About the Musannaf of Imam Abdul Razzaq, the first ever printed edition was published by Habeebur Rehman Aazmi and he did mention that he could not trace the first part of this manuscript work. He has mentioned this in his foreward. He had access to the manuscripts of this work found in the subcontinent and also a nuskha from gulf which was presented to him by memeber of some royal family. A close friend of mine who loves manuscript studies, told me that none of the manuscript of the musannaf in the Indian subcontinent is complete. This is the same thing which Habeebur Rehman Aazmi wrote. He was surprised that how come only a certain part of a manuscript is missing in all the nuskha.

    Regarding the quote from Tuhfa Ithna Aashariya, see here

    http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=7573
     
  2. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

  3. Abdul Mustafa 786

    Abdul Mustafa 786 Active Member

    The following is an excerpt from The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him And His Family) The Proof Of Allah’s Majesty And The Bringer Of The Divine Law, A lecture delivered by Hazrath Maulana Muhammad Shafi Okarvi (may Allah be well pleased with him): http://sufi.co.za/article%20okarvi%20proof.htm


    The Human Emergence And The Creation Of The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him And His Family)
    Allah says:
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    It is He Who has sent His Messenger

    Ponder! The Qur’aan commands us to ponder upon its words. Allah says in the 4th Sura, an-Nisaa, Verse 82:
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    Will they not ponder on the Qur’aan?

    Why do they not study the Qur’aan with care and consideration? Every word and letter from Allah possesses wisdom. E.g.
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    It is He Who has sent His Messenger​

    Allah says, ‘arsala’ not ‘khalaqa’. The word ‘arsala’ is derived from ‘irsaal’, which means ‘to send’. That object or being can be sent that exists initially. He did not say ‘khalaqa ’which means ‘khalqun’ or ‘to create’. Allah did not say, ‘khalaqa Rasulahu’ but said, ‘arsala Rasulahu’ so that it may be known that the time of the Holy Prophet’s physical appearance in this world was not the time of his creation. That was the time of his human emergence and not his creation for he was created before all creation. Thus the Holy Prophet’s emergence on this earth was only his arriving and not his creation for he was created before all creation. Listen to the narration of his creation. The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) says:
    Awwalu ma khalaqallahu noori​
    The first thing or being that Allah created first is my light (nur)


    Here the word khalaqa is utilized. This Hadith is sound (Sahih).
    Shaikh al-Muhaddithin Hazrath Allama Shah Abd al-Haq Muhaddith Dehlvi (may Allah be well pleased with him):
    Do you realize what a great personality he is? We accept him as great but his proximity to Allah and greatness is accepted by those opposed to our beliefs also. Molvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi[7] has written about Shah Abd al-Haq Muhaddith Dehlvi (may Allah be well pleased with him), that daily he was blessed with the vision of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) in his dreams. Such Ulama are called Huzuri wale Ulama . Meaning that they present themselves (haazir) daily at the Holy Court of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) and thereby receive solutions to many problems from the audience with the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family).

    This great personality, Shaikh al-Muhaddithin Hazrath Allama Shah Abd al-Haq Muhaddith Dehlvi (may Allah be well pleased with him), says about this Hadith:

    Dar hadithe sahih aam da ast Awwalu ma khalaqallahu noori​
    It is reported in sound sayings of the Holy Prophet that the Holy Prophet stated, ‘The first thing or being that Allah created first is my light (nur)’ ​


    Listen to another Hadith. My respected elders and friends, listen attentively to this next Hadith that I am about to present to you. Imame Ajal, Imam Abd ar-Razaq (may Allah be well pleased with him) who is the teacher of a great personality like Hazrath Imam Ahmad Hamnbal (may Allah be well pleased with him) one of the four Imams of Islamic Law (fiqh). Imam Abd ar-Razaq, is also the grand teacher of Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim[8]. Hazrath Imam Ahmad Hamnbal says that I have never seen another Imam to match Imam Abd ar-Razaq’s knowledge of Hadith. This great Imam, Abd ar-Razaq has presented this Hadith with its chain of narration. This is a ‘high-ranking’ (marfu) Hadith. In case anyone objects and speak out after I leave therefore I present to you another reference for this Hadith. Molvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi has written a book on the life of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) called ‘Nashrut teeb fi zikre Habeeb’. I have this book in my possession at this very instant. He has a chapter in this book called, Section One: ‘A discourse on the light of Muhammad’ (pehli fasl, Nure Muhammadi ke bayaan.). He has quoted this Hadith and given a commentary. I will relate it to you in the Arabic.
    Removal Of Hadith And Statements From Original Books Of Great Scholars
    Before I relate this Hadith I would like to tell you one more thing. Imam Qastalani (may Allah be well pleased with him) has reproduced this Hadith in the commentary of Sahih Bukhari (Sharahe Sahih Bukhari) and given the reference of Imam Abd ar-Razaq’s (may Allah be well pleased with him) book al-Musannaf. Thanvi Sahib has also reproduced this Hadith and given the same reference. Great imam’s have quoted this Hadith and have given the reference of Imam Abd ar-Razaq’s (may Allah be well pleased with him) book al-Musannaf. These present followers of Deoband are reprinting this book al-Musannaf that has been quoted as a reference by great Imams as well as their Deobandi Molvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi. These Deobandis have removed this Hadith from the reprint of al-Musannaf (translators note: the year 1960 to1970). They have removed and deliberately omitted this Hadith from the original source. If you don’t want to accept the Hadith then do so but why did you remove and deliberately omit this Hadith from the original source? So these people are ‘Thieves of Hadith’. They steal the Hadith of the Holy Prophet. Some thieves steal money, rob stores or homes but they steal from the Hadith of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). Is this not stealing? Rejecting is something else but to remove the Hadith from the source book cannot be tolerated by any person in the world that loves justice. This is a crime and offense. I convened a conference in the city of Karachi and named the conference ‘Thieves of the Religion’ (Din ke Chor). At this conference I made many references to where these people have removed texts from original sources[9]. The Supreme Helper (Ghaus al-Azam), The Beloved of The Most Powerful (Mahboobe Subhaani), Shaykh Sayyid Abd al-Qaadir, of Gilan (al-Jilaani) (may Allah be well pleased with him) has written a famous book Futuuh al-Ghaib (Revelations of the Unseen). The Wahabbis have reprinted this book in Karachi. Ghaws al-Azam says in this book that an ‘Intimate of Allah’ (Waliullah) when he reaches the state of being ‘A Spiritual Axis’ (Qutbiyat) and being ‘The Mightiest Helper ’ (Ghawsiyat) then he is given the power by Allah’s leave to say, ‘Be’ (kun) (Wa qab yuraddoh illaihi tatweer). When this Qutb or Ghaws says, ‘kun’ then whatever he wills to be, becomes. In the Wahabbis reprint of this book they have removed this statement since it conflicts with their beliefs. Shah Abd al-Aziz Muhaddith Dehlvi (may Allah be well pleased with him) has written a book against the Shia, called, ‘Towfa Ithna Asharia’ and in this book he has written that the Shia, say the we the Sunnis are the enemies of the Household of the Prophet (Ahl al-Bayt). In our defense Shah Abd al-Aziz Sahib says that how can we be the enemies of the ‘Household of the Prophet’ (Ahl al-Bayt) since we, The followers of the Holy Prophet’s Sunnah and the Sunnah of the congregation of his Companions (ahle Sunnah wa jamaat) accept all the Awliya of ahle Sunnah wa jamaat, accept all the Spiritual Masters of the four Sufi Orders and we remember Imam Hassan and Hussain (may Allah be well pleased with them) and feed in their blessed memory (nazro niaz). So if we are enemies of the Household of the Prophet (Ahl al-Bayt) then why do we remember Imam Hassan and Hussain (may Allah be well pleased with them) and feed in their blessed memory. The entire ahle Sunnah wa jamaat and their pious elders remember Imam Hassan and Hussain and feed in their blessed memory. These Wahabbis and Deobandis, who really reject the remembrance of Imam Hassan and Hussain, have reprinted Shah Abd al-Aziz Muhaddith Dehlvi’s, book ‘Towfa Ithna Asharia’ and have removed this statement from the book since it is in conflict with their beliefs. If you don’t accept nazro niaz then don’t accept it but why have you changed the books of great scholars. Why do you steal from the texts? So tell me what did the Jews do? Did they not conceal the name of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him and his family) from the Torah? These (hypocrites) are concealing the great attributes of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him and his family) from the Qur’aan and Ahadith. I am not speaking falsely I say it with conviction. Any thing I state I state with certainty since to accuse anyone falsely is a major sin. Why am I making such a commotion about this? Tell me, he whose home is being plundered, does he not make a noise? My house is being plundered, since my simple Sunni brothers, who believe like me, are becoming victims of their deception and lies. My house is being plundered; those who have my beliefs (aqida) are changing. Why should I not bark since I am a dog of the Holy Court of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). When a thief arrives does not a dog bark and make a noise? The dog is a trustworthy servant and he protects the source of his sustenance. I am a dog of the Holy Court of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) and am sustained by the bits and pieces of this Holy Court. So being his dog I warn you with an outcry, to protect yourselves from these thieves. Protect your Iman. I swear by Allah (Almighty and Glorious is He) that this life of mine is an offering (waqf) on the name of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). This life has been put on the line on many occasions. They have tried on numerous occasions to injure and murder me. Allah has always protected me. In this big gathering, I swear by Allah, and state that I have received glad tidings (bashaarat) from the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) that none can harm me. I am not accusing without proof. I have the proof in my possession and my protector is the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). My protectors are the Awliya. If this life is sacrificed on their name, then let a thousand such lives be sacrificed on the soil that touch their blessed feet. I swear by Allah that I don’t have a personal grudge or enmity against anybody. If they return to the fold of truth, in the servitude of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family), and praise him, then I am prepared to carry their shoes. I keep on telling them to abuse me but refrain from abusing and insulting the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). How can I keep quiet knowing their transgressions and injustice being perpetrated on the Community of Believers, being an eyewitness to this sacrilege? What answer will I give the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) on the Day of Reckoning? The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) will ask, “People used to kiss your hand, garland you and shower you with presents because you used to take my name and when my personality was being blasphemed, and my sayings were being removed from books you kept quiet.” Those who swear me, do so! I have no fear, for I will present myself at the Holy Court of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) and say, ‘Master! I ate the bits and pieces of your Holy Court and I have been faithful. I did as much as I could. So please accept my servitude to you, for I consider it enough for my salvation.’ Note what I am saying. I swear by Allah that I don’t have a personal grudge or enmity against anybody. I oppose those who blaspheme the personality and status of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) because this is disrespect to the Holy Prophet’s status.


    The Dignity (Qadr) Of The Holy Prophet
    I have diverted from my original theme. To recap there is a ‘high-ranking’ (marfu) Hadith. Listen to it. Hazrath Jabir bin Abdullah al-Ansari (may Allah be well pleased with him) presented himself at the Holy Court of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) and stated, ‘ O Messenger of Allah! May my mother and father be sacrificed for you.’ This was the methodology of the Companions. When they spoke to the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) they first said, ‘ O Messenger of Allah! May my mother and father be sacrificed for you.’ If you wish to ask about the dignity (qadr) of the Holy Prophet, ask the Companions (Sahaba). They knew the appreciation of his merit (qadr).

    A companion was sitting in his garden preparing the soil for planting in his garden. Another companion came and said, ‘O You who are preparing furrows! Working in your garden. Do you know what has happened in Madinah? On enquiry the visitor informed him that the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) had passed away. He left his tools on the spot and ran to the Blessed Chamber (hujra sharifa) to see the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). After seeing the blessed face he came out and began screaming and wailing saying, ‘O Allah! Will we not see your beloved walking the streets and in the market place? In the Masjid we will not see him delivering a lecture from the pulpit and leading us in prayer? ‘O Allah! Take away the sight from these eyes of mine that will no more see your beloved. Make me blind. Of what use are these eyes if they don’t see Your beloved?’ It was a request from the heart. A request of a person burning with love, so it was accepted immediately, and his eyesight was taken away.


    Ask the companions the status and love of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family). These who find fault and needle us they are devoid of love. Lovers never find fault. They have been deprived of the treasure of intense love and affection. My elders and friends I stated that it was the methodology of the Companions, that when they spoke to the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) they first said, ‘ O Messenger of Allah! May my mother and father be sacrificed for you.’ So Hazrath Jabir then asked, ‘Inform me as to what was the first thing or being that Allah created before all creation?’ Ponder on the question of the Companion also. In his question there is a point to note. It is established that it was the belief and faith of the Companion that the Holy Prophet will have knowledge as to the first thing or being that Allah created. Therefore he said, ‘Inform me.’ These people (Deobandis / Tablighis /Wahabbis) have written in their books that the Holy Prophet has no knowledge of tomorrow and as to what is behind a wall. I swear by Allah (Almighty and Glorious is He) that they have written in their books that the Holy Prophet has no knowledge of his own future or that of others or what will be his or their destiny in the hereafter. To support this they present a Qur’aanic verse so that people will understand that they are not making a statement without proof. They present the Holy Qur'aan, the 46th Sura al-Ahqaaf, Verse 9, in which the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) says,
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    …nor do I know what will be done with me or with you.

    They present this verse and say, ‘The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) does not know what is his destiny and that of others.”
    Is ghar koh aag, lagayi ghar ke chiraag se​
    This house has been set on fire by its own lamp ​


    For the sake of Allah, use your intelligence. If this verse connotes what they say it does and we adopt this belief that the Holy Prophet does know what is his destiny and that of others and then we have a debate with the Shia sect. In this debate we present the following arguments:

    The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) said,
    ‘The following eminent personalities, Abu Bakr Siddique, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Talha, Zubair, Saad, Saeed, Abd ar-Rahman bin Auf, Abu Ubaidah (May Allah be well pleased with them) are Inmates of Heaven.’ These ten eminent persons are known as The Ten who received Glad Tidings (Asharah Mubasharah).


    We will say that the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) gave these ten glad tidings of paradise then they will argue that your Molvis have stated that The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) does not know what is his destiny and that of others, so how can he give these tidings of paradise? What answer will they give the Shia? Also many Verses of the Holy Qur'aan and Ahadith will be negated.
    The Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him and his family) has said:
    On the Day of Reckoning when all the people will have lost hope; Exaltation and the Keys will be in my hands; ‘the Flag of Praise’ will be in my hands; Adam (may Allah bless him with peace) and all other prophets will be under my flag; I will be the first to open the doors of paradise. [10]


    He (Peace be upon him and his family) has also said in a Hadith in Sahih Bukhari:
    O You who are present at the Battle of Badr, do as you please for Allah has guaranteed your salvation[11]


    He (Peace be upon him and his family) has also said:
    Those who pledged the oath of fealty to me under the tree, have been guaranteed salvation by Allah[12]


    Should I make it brief, He (Peace be upon him and his family) has also said:
    Tuba li mar ra’ani
    Glad tidings for he who has looked at me (with faith) ​

    And he (Peace be upon him and his family) also said:
    Kulla Ummati yadkhulunal jannah​
    My entire community will attain paradise ​
     
  4. قد جاءكم من الله نور و كتاب مبين
     
  5. maulanax

    maulanax Active Member

    there is more proof from quran and hadith about the prophet being noor than what is being shown

    also there has been no analysis of any tafsir about the verse in the quran
     
  6. chisti-raza

    chisti-raza Veteran

  7. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    I wish people come visit northern Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajkistan, and see and meet the Sunni scholars there and the beauty with which they mention Nur al-Muhammadiyya, the Nur of RasulAllah salAllaho alayhi wa alihi wa sallam. The majority of them are Naqshbandis.

    It is in my opinion that it is no exagerration to say, that the ulama of Hind (India) also inherited the knowledge of Nur al-Muhammadiyya from the blessed Habaib.
     
  8. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

  9. maulanax

    maulanax Active Member

    but isnt the belief that prophet peace be upon him is noor and was the first thing created by Allah is part of our aqidah

    is it not?
     
  10. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Yes, why is this thread in the aqida section?

    Also, most of us here already know what Shaykh Abul Huda has said and what Shaykh Gibril Haddad has said, its in the archives, this issue, why repeat and repeat it again and again? Is not ma'rifa enough to post on, why post here once again?

    For this reason, this thread should go into the bickering section.
     
  11. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    as-salamu `alaikum

    this is not an aqida issue and should be in the ulum al-hadith section

    maulanax, you can also go through Shaykh Umar Nashuqati's article here for now:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20071012000611/http://risalaty.com/hadeth/hadeth01.html

    insha'Allah I will post what has been mentioned by Sayyid Abu'l Huda Muhammad al-Ya`qoubi and shaykh Gibril Haddad later about the Nur narration attributed to Musannaf Abdar Razzaq.

    was-salam
     
  12. maulanax

    maulanax Active Member

    this article is very weak as it doesnt have enough quotes from scholars who deem the quote weak and also it doesnt analyse any of the hadiths narrator by narrator

    the man has messed this article up big time
     

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