faraz rabbani at shaykh Qamaruzzaman Azmi Masjid

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  1. Juwayni

    Juwayni Veteran

    Agreed. Ala Hazrat was from the 'Urafa and his various Maqalat evidence his ability intellectually demolish the demonic enterprise of the fake sufis and their cultic fanboys. Sidi @Bazdawi.
     
  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    actually, if you read Alahazrat and other reliable sunni scholars you learn to think critically, to question and to drill down to bare-bone facts.

    if only we could read, we would know.

    what we know might hurt us but what we don't - kills us.
     
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  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator


    whoa! we seeing the same everywhere - from remote towns in forgotten corners of the developing world to the most urbane centers of the "developed" world.

    sad to say, but the Muslim dystopia is already here.

    where to now?
     
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  4. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    stuff that cults are made of. how self-serving!

    shows that even the western uni system has failed to produce true skeptics - it seems the skeptics are no more than parrots themselves.

    how is fraud after fraud after fraud going about unnoticed and unchallenged - I thought that if western unis did not do anything worthwhile - they atleast produced skepticism.
     
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  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    frankly, i am cynical about most of these celebrity shakes and attractive resumes.
    if any of them is willing to stand a public test on any of the disciplines: aqidah, kalam, fiqh, tafsir, hadith, tasawwuf etc., we can design a test to see how well they measure up.

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    it is not difficult to identify frauds. you can pick up any of the classical simple books of tasawwuf written by great men like imam ghazali etc. and check your favourite sheikh/sheikha - how well he/she measures up.

    besides, frauds have always existed. even in those good times 1300 years ago. there were people who claimed to have ijazah and that they heard from saHabah. so ulama devised strategies to trap pretenders.

    the only way we can do it in our time is to make knowledge accessible, such that even common people can detect the elaborate fraud of the celebrity shakes in the west.

    nuh keller lied, and 5 years after i demonstrated how he lied, there is no remorse - and people seem to have just moved on. at least afroz ali was only interested in money (assuming the charges are true).

    we have a hamza peddling perennialism, and pushing it up notch by notch. a keller who created a whole new framework out of his own misunderstanding texts... and faraz?

    faraz had a video post keller's article, in which he said alahazrat made an error. i wish i could find it - just as an appendix to TKM.

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    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
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  6. sunni_porter

    sunni_porter Well-Known Member

  7. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    afroz ali is a fijian-indian shaytan who can't as much as read the Fatiha properly in Arabic with proper pronunciation. his knowledge of Arabic language and grammar is disgraceful at best.

    he is a jahil who has never received any formal education in any of the Islamic sciences, and yet he lies through his teeth that he has sat at the feet of some of the greatest scholars of our time and graduated from Madinah uni of the wahabis and so on

    this below, is a load of hogwash:

    (source)
    he did study with mark hanson for some 3-months or so in the USA. afroz is a die-hard mark hanson fan and considers hanson as a mujaddid of our times, in addition to being his teacher and guide

    come to think of it, this too is a load of hogwash:

    if he isn't making money off of unsuspecting innocent students in the name of Islam, he pretty much has nothing else to do, although he did work in the corporate world in the past, i think as an architect

    he has a bad temper and can't take criticism very well and easily uses f n' c-level language with people who have asked him to produce his diplomas, ijaza's, etc., or who have asked him for their fair share of compensation in one of his initiatives

    the man is a damn thief who has robbed roughly $200,000 from the mosque donations of a desi mosque in Sydney. he stays away from desis altogether, be it Sunnis or deos, and tries to stick around Arabs, Turks, Indonesians, western converts, etc. basically anyone non-desi

    don't take my word for it, contact the NSW, Australia police department and ask yourself! don't take his nonMuslim ex-wife's word for it either but see here if you wish:

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=162625770426018&id=161807873841540 (although I am not sure if the fraud she is talking about is his absconding with the mosque's money, or another fraud)

    he tries hard to make semi-profound statements that he thinks little children will one day use in school assemblies as "thought for the day" (when i was a kid, we used to do "thought for the day" in my school assembly)- his facebook page is full of such narcissism

    https://www.facebook.com/ImamAfrozAli?group_id=378439202263637&filter=2

    by taking him on board seeker's hub, faraz rabbani has firmly established his status as a conman as much as afroz is. because anyone who has basic kindergarten level Islamic knowledge, will know on a first meeting with afroz that this guy is anything but a scholar. this is the reason i have written a detailed bio of the shaytan.

    a crackpot aussie pakistani lawyer by the name of irfan yusuf is a die-hard anti-afroz activist in his own way. the guy's not a scholar, neither does he claim to be, but he knows afroz ali well for the conman that he is and routinely blasts him on his website

    see here for example: http://madhabirfy.blogspot.com/2009/02/comment-afroz-ali-becomes-renowned.html

    in fact, the poor guy even took a shot at faraz rabbani when he said:

    (source)

    he is very rightly referring to afroz as the fraudster who won't show his qualifications when asked. the party to the fraud he talks about is 99.999% faraz rabbani as this article was written almost right after afroz had teamed up with faraz. like i said, he's a crackpot lawyer who doesn't know deen well, but he's 100% on the ball with afroz ali.

    such shayatin need to be publicly named and shamed.

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    it's quite amusing he says on his facebook page -

    and yes, his love for mark hanson shows here

    here's him dancing with faraz rabbani in scholarly love - https://www.facebook.com/ImamAfrozAli/photos/a.353299781415029.82332.349926448419029/612212098857128/?type=1&relevant_count=1
     
  8. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Today faraz shaytani gave another khutba at the Sunni masjid of Shaykh Qamar uz Zaman 'Azami.

    He promoted himself as "Sunni" scholar for a spiritual seekershub retreat planned at a camping site in Ontario Canada.

    That man's khutbah had no spirituality, little substance, and incoherent. He seemed quite nervous, intimidated by his presence now in the masjid. He stood for the salam and listened to 'Ala HaDrat's kalam even though he has bughz against him. The retreat planned brings together the following "Sunni" scholars, who I don't believe are Sunnis:


    1) John Rhodus
    2) Afroz Ali ( new partner with faraz shaytani Islamic business enterprise in Australia )
    3) Mr Mossad


    He has invited Shaykh Ahmad Sa'ad of Ihsan institute

    http://www.ihsaninstitute.co.uk/Home/Articles

    Is it possible for a brother in the UK to inform Shaykh Qamar uz Zaman 'Azami that there faraz shaytani, a deobandi, is misleading Sunnis at his mosque in Canada?
     
  9. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    faraz deobandi gave khutbah today at Sunni Masjid in Greater Toronto Area

    Shaykh Qamar uz Zaman Azami does not know that a deobandi is giving khutbas at his masjid. The masjid management doesnt know either and faraz hasnt told them that he is a student of taqi usmani, having studied with him and promotes him and deobandis of Dewsbury and Bury in England

    faraz is a great admirer and promoter of ashrafi li thanvi

    faraz has been coming to this masjid for more than a decade and has a good relationship with them that is actually for publicity to gain students for money purposes.

    His seekers hub isn't that far from the masjid either
     

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