Haji imran attari uk 2014

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  1. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Nigran e shura will deliver a sunnah inspired bayaan on sunday 23 november in bradford at jamia masjid tabligh ul islam on butler street. The ijtima starts at 7:30.
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  2. Lonely_Mountain

    Lonely_Mountain Active Member

  3. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

  4. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    Just to clear the water; I have a huge respect for D.I work and the propagating of Qur'aan & Sunnah however; I was giving my point of interactions. Please do forgive me for any misunderstanding in this, but as population we cannot be oblivious to things that happen around us.
  5. Lonely_Mountain

    Lonely_Mountain Active Member

    I understand what you mean, you were just being precautionary of course. Your argument is true as well and has its place.

    I gave brother ethical barelvi the benefit of doubt because we are communicating via forum where we cannot see each other's body language or demeanour so it makes it easier to communicate if we dismiss these matters sometimes. His niyyah wasn't corrupt and he wasn't intending disrespect, I personally feel we should direct these sorts of blames to people who deserve it like deobandis or wahhabis who are corrupt and do it deliberately due to inner ghazaalat.

    Also bear in mind that someone could use all the laqabs but still hold insincerity in their heart whereas someone who doesn't may be more genuine.
  6. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    They do try to bridge the gap between pir and mureed no doubt, but i still think that reffering to any alim e deen simply with his name shouldnt be done, as then the awaam un naas start to become disrespectful towards the ulama.

    However, if ethical barelvi didnt meen it negatively but was just saying the name due to his comfort, no problems.
  7. Lonely_Mountain

    Lonely_Mountain Active Member

    Salaam - i don't think its a big deal if brother Ethical Barelvi simply said Imran Attari, if I have observed anything amongst Dawateislami's main figures (i.e. Bapa and the Nigraan's such as Imran Attari etc) it is definitely that they try to bridge the gap between "pir" and "mureed" and create more of a brotherhood feeling. For example they usually wear the same clothes and use language of laypeople etc. These are observations regarding their actions in Pakistan and their Urdu programmes etc. I might be wrong but that's just what I've seen.

    Additionally, if ethical barelvi didn't use any appellations such as Nigran e Shura or any of these titles I don't think it immediately denotes disrespect, if anything it just shows him being casual or comfortable.

    Regardless, despite of all this, what was the point being made lol? Something about brothers singing at the airport? And a tour? For such basic points this became a bit messy!
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  8. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Brother listen first you referred to him as "imran attari", the reason why i had a problem was that why not show a little big of respect.

    And no im not taking bayah.... Just carm down and put your hands up and say that u should have referred to him with some respect.

    No problems, dont take nothing to heart bro, i didnt ask you whose mureed you are in an arrogant manner, rather i just wanted to know.
  9. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    Who is being rude-I am allowed to state the ovious; why does it hurt to do such I met Haji Imran Attari twice I have utmost respect for him. I made judgement on my interactions and my point of view. That does not mean I don't hold respect for someone.

    Did I say he is not Alim or A sunni? You guys seem to jump the gun to much, sit back down and relax.

    And Attari I am not Mureed of no-one thanks. Are you taking Bayyah you seem quite adamant?
  10. Muslimah Madani

    Muslimah Madani New Member

    My father travelled with nigran e shura from Dubai on his qafila to Uk and accompanied him for most of the qafila , the plan was not for so many brothers to fetch haji Saab at the airport most of them were at the faizan e madina in Birmingham but because it was haji saabs first time in the uk I think many more brothers were at the airport hence the singing and video many saw of his arrival . I know both times Maulana Ilyas qadri arrived in South Africa nobody knew they were arriving except four or five people . Just to clarify because some people might have misconceptions .
  11. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Ethical barelvi who are u a mureed of?
  12. Abu al-Qasim

    Abu al-Qasim Active Member

    What do you mean?
  13. Abu al-Qasim

    Abu al-Qasim Active Member

    There's no need to be rude, just because we're on an anonymous forum bro. And Mawlana Haji Imran Attari Sahib is still a Sunni and an `alim, whatever else your or anybody else's views might be on him, so please give him the due respect.
  14. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    nothing. if it is only songs alahazrat wrote.
  15. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Brother i think you should show adab to haji sahib when referring to him. Merely saying imran attari to him comes across as very rude. And i corrected you because in todays day and age most people relate singing to songs and they relate reading to quran and naat shareefs etc.

    Its not very normal to hear a person saying "oh so and so SING a naat"

    Others please comment if you think i am wrong
  16. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    Why what's wrong with singing.

    What is the meaning of Anasheed in arabic? Grow up and be realistic. I have met Imran Attari whilst on Umrah edit mod [aqdas]
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  17. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Come on bro, il word it slightly diffrent "reading" instead of "singing".

    Me myself i am not part of the organisation but i do understamd why they have such mohabbat with haji imran.
  18. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    Will the D.I brothers do the singing at the airport; like last year?
  19. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Nigran e shura haji imran attari will be coming to the uk on november 20th.

    His first bayan will be in manchester on the 20th of november.

    He will then be in rochdale for 2 days with a madani qafila.

    From there he will go to birmingham for three days. One day he will deliver a bayan and 2 days he will spend in birmingham with madani qafila

    Then he will go to bradford for three days and the same schedule as birmingham will continue.

    Haji sahib will then go to london, in london there will be a madani muzakra.He is also going to stay there for a few days with a qafila.

    On the 4th of december he will be in france for three days, he will then go onto italy,spain and greece for a couple of days each.

    The dates hazrat will be in uk are from the 20th of november to the 3rd of december.

    Venues are to be confirmed.
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