Happy Muslims

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  1. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    Anas bin Malik (radi Allahu anhu) reported that the Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) delivered a Khutbah to us the like of which I had never heard from him before. He said, “If you knew what I know, you would laugh little and weep much”. Thereupon those present covered their faces and began sobbing.

    [Sahih al-Bukhari and Muslim]
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  2. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    a volte face? or 'did not heed his own advice' in the other video?

  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    calling a companion a 'court jester' - where'd he read the arabic term for that?

    and that incident about Umm Makhtoum (raDiyAllahu 'anhu), seems hanson is up to his usual spicing-it-up business....

  4. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    timmy winters' clarification: "On the boundaries of da'wa"


  5. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    no comments but .... :)
  6. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Abubakr al kattani: arberry's translation

    Kattani also related as follows:

    I saw in a dream an extremely handsome youth.
    “Who are you?” I enquired.
    “Piety,” he replied.
    “Where do you dwell?” I asked.
    “In the heart,” he answered, “of the sorrowful.”

    Then I saw a most hideous, black woman.
    “Who are you?” I demanded.
    “Laughter and gaiety and enjoyment,” she answered.
    “Where do you dwell?”
    “In the hearts of the heedless and those who amuse themselves.”
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  9. Muhammad Sakti

    Muhammad Sakti New Member

    I agree wholly with Shaykh Abu Hasan. The political narrative behind this 'happiness' needs to be illustrated infront of the Baldricks of the Muslim community - the narrative being the suppressed premise:

    Muslims are sorely abject and forlorn souls.


    They can only prove otherwise by dancing like idiots

    = Happy video

    But I think that merely sufficing on saying 'Oh my, isn't this the haramest thing I've seen! It's pure Haram!' - albeit very very true - is a response so paradoxical that we might as well issue a statement listing how many parameters of the Sharia the 'YMCA' broke in 1978.


    The video is Haram, idiotic and as insecure as a dwarf in a room full of giants. However, the attitude currently fuming our Masjids and Madrasahs - if reciprocated by the masses - would leave us dull, boring and no more educated about our din.


    Muslims need to rekindle a sense of brilliance and harmony in our communities. We need to get with the age and revamp our medieval programmes of study to suit the age, while maintaining the axioms of the Shariah. Maybe then, less of us would feel we need to do a back flip to get a banana from 'Sir' thrown at us.
  10. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    lol, there's a "halal" version of it out now, with no music, but just the vocal lyrics, and all women's dances removed, with only some sidi's jumping around like drunk chimpanzees - dunno if it is posted by the same group or not. i still don't understand why tim winters didn't dance with the happy sidi's in the video


    if it is posted by the same group, it kinda smacks of thanvi's "tawba" from his hifzul iman. the blasphemous passage was replaced by a supposedly non-blasphemous one without any retraction from the former passage, and that establishes "tawbah" according to them.


    this is what the zanadiqah who did it have to say:


    and they've embedded the un-"halal" version with the women dancing


    i know, i know.

    i would pay my life savings to see your paqs bust a move to that tune. please let me know when paqs gets happy or does the moonwalk or breakdances!

    it's a humble request.
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    don't miss the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

    white sab / western masters say that you muslims cannot be happy by merely smiling; you should jump like monkeys - only then you can claim to be happy.

    and muslim idiots are dancing to their tune.

    more muslim morons are cheering those idiots.

    some more imbeciles are wondering why people criticise those muslim morons who cheer idiots who think happiness is jumping like monkeys.

    not only do you have to prove that you are not a terrorist, you have to now prove that you muslims CAN also be happy - and the script? smile ear-to-ear or open your mouth like you are doing an ad for toothpaste, or jump like kangaroos, act like a nincompoop grandad who thinks he is a break-dancer.


    what next?

    muslims don't like poisonous food. (imagine dead rats and cheese on a plate; a "happy" muslim passes by lifts the plate to his nose - he opens his eyes like big saucers, shakes his head vigorously, animatedly shouts "NOooooo".

    in another scene, a "happy" girl, passes by a mushroom around which are dead cheshire cats; she plucks it up, smells it, shudders and screams "Noooooo"."

    high time, someone made a film: muslims are not idiots. (tim winters cannot figure in it, unfortunately)
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  12. Nawazuddin

    Nawazuddin Veteran

    Angry Muslims. See above!
  13. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    what are you getting so worked up about? you could have said all that in two lines.

    stop showing off
  14. Muhammad Sakti

    Muhammad Sakti New Member

    No sane Muslim can condone the content of that video. However, likes of the production in question are a result of restrained confusion billeted in the quiet corners of the young Muslim mind. Our Sunni leadership in Britain has failed us at multiple junctures - young Muslims don't know what to think about the world. When's the last time a young cleric in the UK addressed Palestine or Kashmir? Or forwarded a potent enough case (written or spoken) against the intimidation of Muslims by the authorities? No, instead we issue a 'Fatwa' against these kinds of videos and call that 'progressive Islam'. Pfff, that's the kind of profligacy that only issues from sour faced religionists.

    How about we highlight the fact that we have a number of young women - who in the eyes of Islam are beautiful and beloved- dancing to a song by an individual whose previous single this year featured him being continuously caressed by three completely naked women while he was fully clothed*. Hardly the matriarchal liberation these sisters seek to achieve!

    We need young Sunnis at the fore who are intelligent and 'real'. Who have a command over the English tongue and are versed in the rhetoric of the day. Who also are savy enough to attract the youth. We need aristrocatic tradition like that of Sayyidi Fazl Haq and Raza, not scanty 'scholarship' donned by a turban.


    *This was highlighted in news delivering reports of pop-culture. I have not seen the video.
  15. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Someone's response:

    there's nothing wrong in dancing provocatively like that in Islam. Just do it with your husband and wife away from the public.

    men and women shaking certain parts of their body. Shaking your chest should be only for your husband in the privacy of your bedroom.

    women uncovering hair in public is haram by the consensus of the scholars.
  16. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i'm disappointed tim winters didn't dance himself. he's the only one who didn't really look happy in that video!
  17. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Yes, Mr Winters, but is it a modest song for Hijabis to be dancing at?

    A song by Western pop artist Pharell Williams, Daft Punk? Do we really have to dance to shut up the islamophobes? Who cares about islamophobes, let them keep shouting. To hell with them. I am sure, now we will see hijabis dancing all over North America, out in the open.

    it's pop music, not something based on indigenous British Muslim folk culture, which native British Muslims don't have any. Native British Muslims havn't developed any culture of theirs yet, and their only way of survival is to mix with the immigrant Muslim populations and adopt aspects of their culture, into their former non-Muslim cultures.

    In European history, minorities have survived as such. Like the Jewish people, who successfully made home in Europe, and had their own European jewish culture. The German minorities in Russia did it, and the Russian minority in Poland. The poles did it in eastern Germany, and the germans in France, and the Irish in England.
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  18. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Fareena Alam on Facebook

    Everyone sharing the sham ShaamPost "Exclusive" statement from Shaykh Abdul-Hakim Murad, here's a response from him that he has asked the Honesty Policy team to share. They got this directly from the horse's mouth:

    I'm delighted to see the outcome of the Happy British Muslims video, which has unlocked a remarkable tide of goodwill around the world, and significantly tilted the image of Muslims among many sceptics. Islamophobes must be grinding their teeth to see Muslims of different races and age-groups united by happiness. No-one will produce a Sharia argument against jumping for joy! I look forward to working with The Honesty Policy on future productions.
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