Hashmi miyan on tahir

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    http://www.siasat.com/english/news/morari-bapu-offers-allow-muslims-do-namaz-ram-mandir

    Kalb-e-sadiq. right.
     
  2. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    as I said earlier, I hope someone who has access to Hashmi miyan, does this.

    If I get the chance to see him this Ramazaan in Haram shareef, I will do it. Or else I will ask one my friends who is a mureed of hazrat Madani Miyaan, to convey the message.

    BTW, Madani Miyaan has already refuted Padri.
     
  3. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    @Brother Barry really, now I see your statement in a whole new light, I mean after you clarified your meaning the question does look like a genuine inquiry. Actually AHamza's post, which was right after yours, skewed my perception and your statement appeared to be criticism aimed at sidi Aqib.

    A lesson worth remembering and maybe for others too.

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    Earlier this month, I told someone via pm the same thing which I have said here - Abu Hamza is not worth bothering with.
     
  4. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    My dear brother the reason why I asked is simply to find out if any of you have already made contact with them about this issue, I myself have a possible avenue open to me through which they can be made aware, but I thought it's best to confirm first if it's already been done by any of you on here.

    I will In-Shaa-Allah do my best to bring this to their attention.
     
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  5. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    I do not understand how people expect us commoners to contact public speakers to 'let them know'.

    Let's be practical, I have not the slightest idea about how I can make my voice heard apart form voicing my concerns on a public forum and hope that someone or the other who CAN will take up the gauntlet and inform us if he was successful.

    For the record, I tried reaching allama qamaruzzama azmi and his son waqar azmi after his denmark speech on hebdo, through whatever channels were available to me but I don't know with which one of the intermediaries my voice got buried.

    Let me ask you in turn, have you tried contacting hashmi miyan? if no, why not? if yes, why not tell us?

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    Abu Hamza can be ignored. He is too inconsistent to bother about.
     
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  6. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Hanafi-Maturidi

    My point exactly, sitting on forums and "safeguarding people's aqeedah" is one thing but actual ground work is another, too many self professed 'ulema' unfortunately
     
  7. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Has anybody from here especially those commenting on this thread made any attempt to contact them to make them aware?
     
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  8. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    our aqeedah concerns every single one of us.

    if one can change some wrong, it is incumbent upon him to attempt it. if he cannot, then at least abhor it from his heart, for this is the weakest Imaan.
     
  9. Abu Hamza

    Abu Hamza Hanafi-Maturidi

    من حسن اسلام المرء تركه ما لا يعنيه
     
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  10. sunniwarrior

    sunniwarrior New Member

    Hashmi miyan should be made aware of his mistakes, just as others have been.
     
  11. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    the first thing that came to my mind.
     
  12. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    if someone has access to Hashmi Miyan, he should point it out to him, to make a public retraction.

    Or else the Minhaaji brigade will use this as a "proof of authenticity" of the fabrication made by TuQ; and go on with their rhetoric that it's application is just a difference of opinion within the scholars.
     
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  13. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    clearly sayyid hashmi miyan sahib has not seen narrations; he has probably assumed that tahir's description is based on fact and without cross-checking he is repeating it.

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    but frankly, he is not USING those narrations to peddle perennialist philosophy. see, mistaking facts or making wrong assumptions, or making an inaccurate statement based on assumptions is not a big crime. in this case, sayyid hashmi miyan sahib might have stated an inaccurate rendition of the event, but he does say it in his characteristic style: keep them in the corner don't bring them on the stage.

    tahir's case is different. he first knowingly conducts a kufri mela; and then tries to justify it by misquoting a hadith to justify his actions.

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    Allah ta'ala knows best.
     
  14. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    i don't know if this has been posted on the forum before.



    in this video he says that the christians of Najran addressed the Prophet 3alaihis salam by name and asked "kya hum apne tareeqey se ibadat kar sakte hain?" and the Prophet 3alaihis salam told them "Masjide Nabawi ke koney mein chaley jao"... at 1:09 he also says the same thing tahir rattles off, namely that the Prophet 3alaihis salam said "yes you can perform" (wal 3eyadhu billah)

    he is refuting tahir, but it seems to me he got the narration wrong... am i right?

    same video with minhajians' "counter-refutation"

     
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