Holding khatam for deceased on the 3rd and 40th

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  1. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    from the fatawa of Imam Rida :ra:

    Sending thawab upon deceased muslims by means of recitation of the quran alone or by serving food etc. along with it is commonly referred to ( in the sub-continent) as performing "fatiha" as surah Fatiha is recited therein.

    The eesal-e-thawab or fatiha performed for the awlia is referred to as "nazr" or "niyaaz" out of respect.

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    while a rich person [ghaniyy] cannot and should not partake in the food meant for the sake of eesal-e-thawab of the commoners , the rulings for niyaaz are different. The food of "niyaaz" is not equal to the food in the former case (t`aam.e.maut) as it is considered as tabarruk !

    and all rich and poor can have it for barakah.

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    other knowledgeable brothers can elaborate on this fatwa or add to it if they have access to other notes by the erudite Imam :ra:.

    wassalam

    --abu nibras
     
    abu nibras, Jan 4, 2005
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  2. Yaseen

    Yaseen Active Member

    Jazakallah khair Sidi Abu Nibras for your response.

    I still do not understand the significance of the 3rd day all the way to the 40th. Is this just done out of convenience or is it something that is really important as a lot of people place significance on these khatams. As brother Haroon has pointed out people go to the extent of labelling those who do not hold such kahtams a wahabi.

    Wasalaam
     
    Yaseen, Jan 4, 2005
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  3. Haroon

    Haroon Guest

    Salam,

    forigve my ignorance, but i dont understand the difference between on the one hand the food being a means of esale-sawab for the deceased, and on the other hand the food being being served with the intention of the reward being sent upon the awliyah?

    In regards to the original question, i have found that many people do believe that it is necessary to do khatm on the 3rd, 10th and 40th (especially 40th) to the point whereby if you didnt do it, you'd be called a wahhabi. Also, i have found that this usually follows 10 or 40 days of mourning aswell. Generally speaking i find that the majority of the people who attend the khatms dont even offer their fardh salah during the time of the gathering.

    But of course i refer to those khatms which are done in the houses of the commoners, as opposed to those i have witnessed in the mosques.
     
    Haroon, Jan 4, 2005
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  4. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    assalam`alaikum,

    Khatams are generally permissible ! Some of the problems lie in the way they are popularly held.

    To see the general permissibility of Khatams see :

    http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/QA00000782.aspx

    http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/QA00000684.aspx

    A point often neglected in the sub-continent is that the food that is served after the recitation of the Quran, if done for the purpose of esaal-e-thawab of the deceased is not served to the poor and the needy - instead it is served to the friends and relatives.

    The ruling by Imam Rida :ra: is very strict and explicit regarding this.

    "murdeh ke naam ka khaana sirf fuqara ke liye hai , aam daawat ke taur par jo karte haiN yeh mana hai."

    If one wants to, one can separately feed the guests who have come to attend the khatam as part of taking care of them.

    was salam,

    abu Nibras

    P.S. The ruling for the food served for sending thawab to the awlia is that it can be eaten by all for barakah as it falls under tabarruk.

    and allah azza wa jall knows best !
     
    abu nibras, Jan 4, 2005
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  5. Yaseen

    Yaseen Active Member

    Khatams on the 3rd,40th,etc

    Asalamu'alykum

    A lot of Sunnis hold khatams on various day after a person has passed up to the 40th day. What is the reason behind this as I can't seem to find any evidence for the virtue of these khatams. A few of my relatives were querying and I didn' t really have an answer as regards the significance of these khatams.

    I came across a quote by the Syrian Shaykh Sa'id Ramadhan Al-Bouti saying these types of khatams are reprehensible Bid'ah.

    I am sure somebody will be able to provide some evidence for these khatams as they are held by a lot of Sunnis, particularly from the sub-continent.

    Jazakallah khair
     
    Yaseen, Jan 3, 2005
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