ibn uthaymin's commentary

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    gotta love it when these blasted wahabis bring out the ahadith of compassion when one of their own scoundrels like uthaymeen or ibn baz are criticized by Sunnis.

    too bad they can't follow the same ahadith when they knowingly lie about Sunni scholars:


    lots of lies and distortions here - http://islamqa.info/en/ref/13473

    abufauzi can see that the wahabis themselves are certainly not pacifist towards those that they believe to be wrong:


  2. Bayt-al-Mahabba

    Bayt-al-Mahabba New Member

    Whats very strange regarding two faced people, they always make a mockery on the ones that dont compromise by saying quoting ahadith on how gentle a believer is or should be, they seem to forget firstly that Islam is not pacifism, infact iman and kufr are opposites, both can never be gentle to the other, Iman and its symptoms in the heart will obviously hate kufr in the heart and its symptoms, its pretty common sense, the quran states how believers are loving to each other and merciful and harsh to the disbelievers, this harshness will also be toward kufr or any heresy which stands on the borders of kufr, also narrations of the great Messenger sallallahu alaihi wa sallam regarding heretics. Uthaymin was recorded on audio which is widely available in declaring that the blessed Gumbad e Khazra be destroyed and the three blessed graves flattened. I ask the poster, will Sayyiduna Umar have spoken to this heretical man with mercy? when in fact he used to sit with his sword in Masjid an nabawi to ensure people behave around the grave of the beloved Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) just as when he was before his demise! Will you then question people on their akhlaaq regarding heretics when Sayyiduna Umar and the salaf were hard on them, Imam Ghazali mentioned, the salaf of this ummah have agreed to be harsh on matters of creed and lenient on matters of fiqh. Ive also come across these quotes of Imam Ahmed Rida khan(alaihi rahmaturahman).

    Imam Ahmed Raza Khan (alaihi rahmatu-rahman) mentions regarding heretics
    "If they know that they praise those declared to be murtadds, they also become murtadds. Even if those praised are not murtadds, it is apparent that it is ugly and bad to praise them.
    The hadîth as-sherîf reported through Anas ibn Mâlik (radiy-Allâhu ’anh) by Ibn Abî ’d-dunyâ, Abû Ya’la and al-Baihakî and through Abû Huraira (radiy-Allâhu ’anh) by Ibn ’Adî says:“Praising a fâsiq (sinner) arouses our Rabb’s indignation.”

    How could a man of bid’a be respected? A hadîth reported through ’Abdullah ibn Bashîr (radiy-Allâhu ’anh) by at-Tabarânî says, “One who respects the man of bid’a will have helped in the annihilation of Islam.” Another hadîth, reported through Mu’âdh (radiy-Allâhu ’anh) in Kabîr by at-Tabarânî and in Hilya by Abu Nu’aim, says, “One who walks to show respect to the man of bid’a has helped in destroying Islam.” There are many similar hadîths. It is dalâla, heresy, for those not promoted to the status of mujtahid not to follow one of the four madhhabs but to do their worship and affairs according to what they understand from hadîths. It is dissention from the Believers’ path. Allâhu ta’âlâ declares in the 43rd âyat of the sûrat an-Nahl, “Ask what you do not know from the people of dhikr!” A hadîth reported through Jâbir ibn ’Abdullâh (radiy-Allâhu ’anh) by Abû Dâwûd says, “Ask what you do not know. Medicine for ignorance is inquiry.” The âyat and hadîth presently quoted command those who do not know to learn by asking those who know. Hence,
    those who speak about the lâ-madhhabî as quoted above or who admit and believe their words, in fact, belong to the lâ-madhhâbî, being their accomplices in heresy."

    Mufti Zaahid Hussein was asked a question regarding hate in islam

    May Allah almighty preserve our people from being enslaved to the throws of the mordern world, the deception of the devil and the misguidance he feeds through confusion, and keep us on the path of the great ulema who came before us and preserved for us our deen.
  3. Noori

    Noori Senior Moderator

    Bye bye AF, we are happy that you have quit.
  4. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    abu Fauzi has been posting translations for some time. As long as it didn't involve anything to do with heretics, it was fine (although to be honest I personally didn't read most of aF's translations). But his continued description about Uthaymeen as "noble" out to distribute his "pearls" of "substance/quality" rankled me even after Aqdas made it clear that such posts will not be entertained. It seemed to me that it wasn't an honest mistake on his part, but rather quite deliberate.

    How it upsets abu Fauzi to have me belittle his shaykh, when that very heretic (and his ilk) spare no effort to demean the Prophet (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)!
  5. Abu Fauzi

    Abu Fauzi Active Member

    Assalam alaikum,
    This is a response to Senoir Member, Sherkan, whose remarks appear above. The Noble Messenger of Allah, Prophet Muhammad, Sallallahu alaihi Wasallam, said, "THE BELIEVER IS NOT GIVEN TO CURSING, SLANDERING OR OBSCENE AND FOUL SPEECH". [Narrated by Ahmad, 3948 al-Tirmidhi, 1977 ].
    On the basis of the above Noble Hadith, I never expect the kind of language used by the Senior Member to dismiss me from the Forum. I am, however, leaving in peace.
    Best Wishes to you all.
  6. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    Take your shaykh's "pearls" and go somewhere else (there is no shortage of forums where your efforts and Uthaymeen's "substance/quality" will be of any use). Who here cares for the dross (of Uthaymeen)?
  7. Abu Fauzi

    Abu Fauzi Active Member

    Assalam alaikum,
    When I posted the topic above, I had no idea that Shaykh Uthaymeen, who offered an analysis on the famous Hadith of Jibreel, alaihi-Salaam, was a "Wahabi". The Administrator, on that count, removed the attachment to the topic. No offence, but I thought you should have removed the entire topic, rather that simply remove the attachment and leave what introduced the topic...which conveys nothing...but agreed, it is your own Forum!! You remove anything you want.
    For some of us, we go for substance/quality of a given message, not the appelation of its author
  8. ghulam-e-raza

    ghulam-e-raza Well-Known Member

  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    uthaymin was a wahabi. don't post anything from any wahabi again.
  10. Abu Fauzi

    Abu Fauzi Active Member

    Assalam alaikum,

    May I share with you the famous Hadith of Jibreel, Alaihi-Salaam, hereby attached for your perusal. It contains some deep knowledge, and an analysis on this noble Hadith by Shaykh Muhammad Saailh al-Uthaymeen brings out even more pearls contained therein. Open it and see for yourself.
    Best Regards.

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