Ijma'a on the superiority of shaykhayn

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  1. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Well-Known Member

    Phantom taubah whose only witness is the edit mod (aqdas) tafzili liar Iran Shah. A person who just recently tried to undermine the credibility of the Sahabah, why will we believe in the credibility of this witness?

    Simple rule, if someone preached deviant beliefs in public then the taubah should also be in public so that the awaam are aware. Else the awaam has a right to consider the person a deviant. If the man was unable to do a public taubah for whatever reason (maybe he was on his deathbed) then that is with Allah, but the public will take his apparent actions that were clear to all before he died. Same goes for the death of any non Muslim where we will consider his apparent state of disbelief before his death.
     
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  2. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    What's Naseeruddin's reference for what he claims?

    Folks from his village might be awed by his oratory, but for a lot of us this Naseeruddin is a dodgy tafdili with a phantom tauba to his credit.

    We follow the ijma3 of the ummah, not the ijma3 of countryside punjab!
     
  3. hamza1

    hamza1 New Member

    Noted. Looking at his other posts, he’s posting other Tafdhili stuff and mixing it with Sunni stuff. He links to videos in Urdu, which I don’t speak, unfortunately. Here he’s attempting to say that Sayyida Fatima Alayhasalam is superior after the Prophets Alayhim assalam, and uses a clip of Pir Naseeruddin Naseer Rahimahullah talking about Imam Malik.

    (Part of a thread):


    What’s funny is Tafdhilis can’t seem to make their minds up: For them, is Sayyidina Ali Alayhisalam superior or Sayyida Fatima Alayhasalam?

    Probably better to ignore this person, but it is worrying that Sunnis might be misled or confused.
     
  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    yes.

    let them bring their proof.
     
  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    who is this liar? (kazzab dajjal)?
     
  6. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    First tell the claimant to bring references and proofs for what he said.

    Why should these neo-rafidi pendus enjoy the privilege of lighting fires and we should be the ones fighting them?

    Anyone can claim anything. Let me make a grand claim - the only reason trump was unceremoniously evicted from the white house is because he had secretly started to subscribe to the neo-rafidi creed of Irfan Shah, and has taken Irfan Shah as his murshid!

    Unless there's a reference given, please spare yourself and others from such useless misinformation overload.
     
  7. hamza1

    hamza1 New Member

    Can somebody please explain this thread and if its claims are true:




     
  8. Abu Darda

    Abu Darda New Member

    Salam. I would like to ask the ulama on this thread questions regarding this article.

    1. What is the ta'reef (or ta'reefaat) of ijma?

    2. Is there ijma upon the ta'reef of ijma?
     
  9. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    Ijma'a on Tafdil al-Shaykhayn
     

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