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Discussion in 'Tarikh' started by naqshbandijamaati, Jun 6, 2006.
Thanx for the info.
jazak Allahu khayran.
yeah and also, Zoroaster never claimed himself to be a prophet.
Pir Karam Shah Bhervi writes a bit about Zoroaster in his book of seerah 'Zia un Nabi' :sas: . He is of the opinion, which is shared by other scholars both muslim and non-muslim, that the original teachings of Zoroaster have been lost and the practices and beleifs of present day Zoroastrians are not in accordance with the true and original teachings of Zoroaster. According to Pir Karam Shah the original teachings of Zoroaster were in accordance with Islam but were later on corrupted. However, he does not go as far as to say he was or could have been a prophet in Islam.
Sidi it wasn't deleted by me. Thanks for the info. The last criterion is of course our yardstick but my point question is that which scholars have said ZArtasht might have been a Prophet? As for the Buddha, I've heard some people say the Fig in Sura Tin might be a reference to him since it is allegedly a sacred symbol of Buddhism. I don't know.
Another explanation I've heard from a Sunni speaker--is that during the Mir'aj, just before Huzoor صلى الله عليه وسلم left the house of Umm e Hani :ra: for the Isra he ate a fig and then the verse "Wa Tin..." was revealed. I don't know how accuate this is as the same speaker then said that the "Wa zaytoon" was revealed because the Prophet wanted to beautify himself before setting off with Gibril :as: to meet His Rabb and so applied olive oil to his hair and beard and combed it. This is a beautiful idea but I'm not sure if it verified by any other scholars.
Ps: sidi! why was my last post on 'stonning' deleted. violation of some rules?
Assalamu Alaikum akhi
i heard that scholars have difference of opinion about him being a prophet just like Buddha. look at some of his teachings that are written in his book Gatha, songs and poems.
1. he belived in action and reaction - you robbed, dont surprise when you will get robbed.
2. God is not a 'give and take' kind (you worship Me and I will reward you) - He is not needy of our prayers.
3. God is the origin of kindness, justice and so on - He wants us to be and do so.
4. he believed in monotheism, hell and heaven, last judgement, resurrection, eternal life afterwards.
5. 'light' and 'fire' are pure and clean - they are sacred, far from contamination and he chose them as religious symbols.
6. 'Sun' and 'Earth' are sacred and death cannot be burried on earth - therefore the placing of corspe on an elevated place had started.
you can see there are some teachings that are unanimous with Islam, hence, accepted. His book 'Zend Avesta' does contain words of wisdom and there is a simple equation to justify the 'sanctification or consecration' of any of the books claimed to be revealed: the verses which are similar or partially consistence with the teaching of Quran or the Beloved sallallahu alaihi wasallam can be said as 'might true or revealed' otherwise disapproved and decredited.
When the Qur'an mentions the People of the Book it is the Jews, Christians and Magians. Now the Magians are 'fire worshippers' who followed a person called Zoroaster in English and Zartasht in Urdu/Farsi. My question is--who is this person and do we consider him a Prophet and his book, The Zend (?), a revealed book?