Length of Beard in Islam - Thought of the four Madhabs

Discussion in 'Hanafi Fiqh' started by AR Ahmed, Feb 22, 2021.

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    a while ago I'd mentioned a book written by Mufti Rafiq saadi. It's a detailed booklet which lays out the authentic position of the shafi'i madhhab after taking into account all the opinions espoused by different scholars within the madhhab. I'll try and get the typed pdf if possible or I'll upload a scanned copy, inshaAllah ta'ala.
     
  2. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    Can someone please post scans of the three references mentioned above?

    Can someone please post scans of all the references mentioned above, that say it is "makruh"?

    What exactly is meant by Makruh - when mentioned in general, in the Shafiyi school - is it tanzeehi or tahreemi? And under what (special) circumstances (if any) have the latter day Shafiyi ulema deemed it only Makruh, when Imam Shafiyi has reportedly deemed it haraam?
     
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  3. absalih

    absalih Active Member

    Salam.But according to us ,Shafi'is , to shave off beard once a while(not as a regular practise), is not ruled a Haram, but opinion differs about One who continually shave off his beard in his whole life, as he is Fasiq or not.What both Imam Nawawi and Imam Rafi‘i(rah) had together supported are the Soundest Views & it cannot be countered with earlier or later scholars' views
     
  4. The Hanafi scholars who are quoting about the Shafaee Maslak are not ignorant of what Hazrat Imaam Shafaee Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu has Said.

    Secondly Shaving of beard is Haraam according to Shafa'i Maslak too

    http://dawahwajihad.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/what-islam-says-about-the-beard/

    It is also interesting that many Shafa'i scholars have claimed Shaving of beard as Haraam. They are:-

    1) Al-Qaffal ash-Shashi
    2) Abu Abdullah al-Halimi
    3) Al-Adhra'i
    4) Ibn Ar-Rifa'ah who said that Hazrat Imaam Shafa'i Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu

    5) The Mufti of Zabid, al-Ashkhar

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     
  5. Haroon

    Haroon Guest

    A shafi scholar is quoting shafi ulema and saying it is makruh in the shafi school, whereas hanafi ulema are saying it is haram in the shafi school. Of course i will therefore follow what the shafi scholar says and the impact of this is that i will have no issues in praying behind a shafi without a beard becaise in his school he is not considered a fasiq!
     
  6. Assalaamu 'Alaykum

    Well brother Haroon answering you a bit simply, I have read about it in "Faizaan-e-Sunnat" by Allamah Ilyaas Attaar Qaadri Sahab. If you have the book plz go through it and post.

    Brother Haroon I would like you to kindly look about this matter in Books, and consult the Ulama of your Area. I will also be asking it to My Peer Sahab.

    Cause I know that growing a beard is Mandatory according to all four Madhabs and I have also heard that a trimming the beard so as to decrease the fistful length is prohibited.

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     
  7. Haroon

    Haroon Guest

    The topic of this thread is answered in the albalagh link rather then whats in these posts itself. I think we only know that for hanafis its wajib to have the beard, but the difference of opinion is with the shafi school. As per the original posters link the following is mentioned from the traditional deobandi website:

    Start quote:

    A.) In all schools of Islamic Law, it is considered wajib (mandatory) for a Muslim male to grow a beard. It is also wajib to let the beard grow a fist length. It is prohibited to cut or shave the beard. He who does so is a fasiq (sinner) and to shorten it less than a fist length is makrooh tahrimi (near haram).

    ...

    Shafi'eah: Allaamah Nawawi (RA) states, 'The correct view (according to the Shafi'ee Madhab) is to leave the beard to grow and it is makrooh to trim the beard whatsoever.' (al-Majmoo vol.1 pg.290; also see Sharh Saheeh Muslim vol.2 pg.143)

    Allaamah al-Iraaqi (RA) states in his book entitled, 'Tarhu Tathreeb' (vol.2 pg.8): '. that the best is to leave the beard totally and not to cut anything from it at all, and this is the view of Imam al-Shafi'ee and his students.'

    There are quotations from two great scholars of the Shaafi'ee Madhab that do not permit the trimming of the beard at all, not even beyond one fist.

    End quote.

    Whereas from the shafii section of sunnipath.com it is mentioned that:

    "Imam al-Shafi‘i is reported to have said that shaving the beard is forbidden (haram). This is not, however, the position taken by the Shafi‘i school.[1] The soundest position in the Shafi‘i school is that shaving the beard is disliked (makruh) and not forbidden (haram). This is the position of all the important figures in the late Shafi‘i school, such as Ibn Hajar al-Haytami, Muhammad al-Ramli, al-Khatib al-Shirbini, and Shaykh al-Islam Zakariyya al-Ansari (Allah be pleased with all of them). (I‘anatu’l-Talibin, 2.341). Ibn Hajar has mentioned that this was the position of both Imam Nawawi and Imam Rafi‘i (Hashiyat Shirwani, 9.376). Imam Nawawi explicitly mentions that it is disliked to shave the beard in his commentary on Sahih Muslim and also in his Rawdat al-Talibin. Anyone familiar with the works of the school will realize that the agreement of all these scholars seals the case as far as the position of the school is concerned."

    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=1572&CATE=389
     
  8. Well, brother abu Hasan can sometimes be quite strict when posts are concerned. He is elder to me both in knowledge and age. He has the right. No complains from him ..

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     
  9. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    its sarcasm :p
     
  10. Could not get you.. bro abu Hasan .. What did this mean?
     
  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    so much for your chest beating sunniyat.
     
  12. Assalaamu 'Alaykum

    Yes brother, the source is correct.. But i did not mention it as it contained some reference about ibn baaz the Najdi wahhabi Mullah.. well no offence intended, as I quoted only the Ahaadees-e-Karaam that proved that the length of the beard is to be a "Fistful" , and not less than that..

    I hope some brothers prove references from the Fatawas and Sayings of our Blessed Sunni Ulama-e-Karaam too like Fatawa Aalamgiri or Fatawa Razawiyyah..

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     
  13. Assalaamu 'Alaykum

    Hazrat Imam Bukhari Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu reports on the authority of Hazrat Imam Nafi' Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu who narrates from Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, that Huzoor [​IMG] said, "Oppose the Mushrikeen (polytheists); lengthen the beards and trim the moustaches."


    Imam Nafi' Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu further states, "And Hazrat ibn 'Umar Raziallahu Ta'alah 'Anhu, during Hajj or Umrah Shareef used to hold on to his beard with his fist and cut off whatever was in excess of that."


    (Bukhari Shareef vol.2 pg.875; Kitab-ul-Libas no.5892)


    In this narration, Sarkaar-e-Madeenah [​IMG] has stated that to lengthen the beard is in fact the command of Allah Ta'alah Himself.

    Furthermore, the Wujoob is further emphasized by the fact that Huzoor [​IMG] did practice this in his entire life. Know well that Huzoor [​IMG] did not trim his beard in his life. In fact, the beard of Huzoor [​IMG] was dense and almost covered his Blessed Chest.



    (Shamaail Tirmidhi Sharif Hadith8; Dalaail al-Nubuwwah Sharif of Hazrat Imaam Bayhaqi Rahmatullah 'Alayh vol.1 pg.235)


    I have also heard that if Beard grows much more than a fist, we are allowed to trim it (until of cource to a fists length).


    Many people go for a clean shave or keep their beards short. It is better to keep a beard of one fist (Ek Musht) , so that we follow the Sunnat of Sarkaar-e-Madeenah Sallallahu 'Alayhe Wasallam ..


    An Arabic couplet quotes that-


    "And resemble them if you cannot be identical. Verily the resemblance of the noble ones is also a form of success."

    ALLAH HAAFIZ
     

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