'Make Men Masculine Again'

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  1. Juwayni

    Juwayni Veteran

    As Salāmu ʿAlaykum,

    Was sent this video [warning, ghayr mahram, run video blocker] but found the transcript. Are there works in our tradition that provide narrations and commentary on being masculine?

    It was said:
    "Rape, murder, war—they all have one thing in common: Men.

    Aggression, violence, ambition unchecked by conscience—all the stuff of “toxic masculinity,” right?

    And, the solution is obvious: make men less toxic.

    Make men less masculine.

    Make men more like women.

    But I’m here to tell you that this way of thinking is not only wrong, it’s dangerous.

    Here’s why: When you try to make men more like women, you don’t get less “toxic masculinity,” you get more [J: reminds me of the thread we had here on how much hair a woman is allowed to cut, and Mawlanā @ridawi 's post on it. Makes one wonder on what writings we have regarding the spiritual effects of doing tashbīḥ of the opposite sex].

    Why? Because bad men don’t become good when they stop being men; they become good when they stop being bad. Aggression, violence, and unbridled ambition can’t be eliminated from the male psyche; they can only be harnessed. And when they are harnessed, they are tools for good, not for harm.

    The same masculine traits that bring destruction also defeat tyranny. The traits that foster greed also build economies. The traits that drive men to take foolish risks also drive men to take heroic risks.

    The answer to toxic masculinity isn’t less masculinity; it’s better masculinity. And we know what that looks like.

    It’s a young man opening the door for a girl on their first date [J: obviously disagree here, shouldn't be setting a date for a date.]. It’s a father working long hours to provide for his family. It’s a soldier risking his life to defend his country.

    The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are too masculine; it’s that they’re not masculine enough. When men embrace their masculinity in a way that is healthy and productive, they are leaders, warriors and heroes. When they deny their masculinity, they run away from responsibilities, leaving destruction and despair in their wake.

    The consequences can be seen everywhere. [J: I'm failing to see the connection here, in the previous paragraph she mentioned that the issue is that men are not masculine enough and then goes on to mention consequences. The issue is that she's failing to illustrate a causal link between a lack of masculinity and these effects, such as fathers living apart form children.]

    One in four fathers now lives apart from his children. And children who grow up without a dad are generally more depressed than their peers who have a mother and a father. They are at far greater risk for incarceration, teen pregnancy and poverty. Seventy-one percent of high school dropouts are fatherless .

    “Of all the rocks upon which we build our lives…family is the most important. And we are called to recognize and honor how critical every father is to that foundation.”

    That was said by then-Senator Barack Obama in 2008.

    “If we are honest with ourselves,” he went on, “we’ll admit that…too many fathers are…missing from too many lives and too many homes.”

    As much as we try to deny the need for real, masculine strength in society, there’s no denying its necessity. Healthy families and strong communities depend on the leadership and bravery of good men.

    Yet, the current trend is to feminize young men in the hopes of achieving some utopian notion of equality and peace. And it starts at the earliest ages. In the school classroom, boys are invariably “the problem.” On the playground, aggressive games like dodgeball [J: I don't think I've ever seen dodgeball played outdoors, who on earth would go diving on pavement to dodge a hit from a ball.] have long been banished. We tell young men that their intrinsic desire to compete is wrong. Everybody gets a trophy. Don’t run up the score. This anti-male tilt continues on through higher education and into the workplace. It has created millions of tentative men, unhappy women, and confused boys and girls.

    Here’s a secret that every woman knows: Women want real men—men they can count on and, yes, look up to. No amount of feminist theory will change that. I don’t know any woman, at any age, who is attracted to a passive man who looks to her to be his provider, protector and leader. Every woman I know wants a strong, responsible man. That’s not a consequence of a social construct or cultural pressure—it’s innate.

    The devaluation of masculinity won’t end well because feminine, passive men don’t stop evil. Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide. Passive men don’t lead. Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.

    We need both. Take away one, and you’re left with a man who’s either weak or wicked. And in a world of wickedness, weak men are nothing more than enablers of wicked men.


    Rape, murder, war—they all have two things in common: bad men who do the raping, murdering, and warring; and weak men who won’t stop them. We need good men who will [J: to this the feminist will say "why can't a strong, independent woman fight off her aggressors, why does she need a man].

    It’s not masculinity that’s toxic. It’s the lack of it.

    I’m Allie Stuckey for Prager University."

    Note: Apparently Prager is quite right-wing so take from that what you will.

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