From this, can it be understood that Alahazrat would consider it obligatory for Muslims living in Dar al-Harb, such as Europe and USA, to migrate to Dar al-Islam, if they possess the capability to do so?
naqvi makes some very interesting remarks. most of the top political dogs, across party and ideological lines, were complicit in the atrocities wreaked on the muslims in the aftermath of the partition. Some actively aided them and some just looked the other way and refused to intervene (which was their moral and legal responsibility, given the offices they held) and in-fact, tried to cover up for the murderers.
iqbal on ram, i wanted to see the poem obaidullah was refering to http://pureiqbal.blogspot.com.tr/2013/12/blog-post_2428.html
In Pakistan its different. The awaam conferred it especially Punjabis. Its primarily nationalism and due to perpetual war with hindu india. Neither Islamic scholar nor a secular education context, especially not the latter as it is hated by 99%. He is Pakistan's most revered national Muslim hero for their short history. He is so revered, they think of him as a savior, especially Punjab. Village after village he is revered by the young and old; almost 200 million people of all races. By the word they mean teacher, philosopher, Hakeem, leader, saint etc. Almost all Sunni scholars in Pakistan call him allama
i'm still curious. just who conferred the title of "allama" upon Iqbal? is it used as "allama" in the Islamic context? or in the secular education context due to his doctorate? to me, the origins of this "allama" title are as mysterious as tahir's "shaykh-ul-Islam" title. if the jahil awam implies it in a religious context, why do the ulema join them and parrot the same "allama" when mentioning him?
someone informed me: There was ikhtilaaf among the khulafa of Alahadhrat(radhiAllahuanhu) on the issue of division of India. Some, like Mawlana Hashmat Ali Khan('alayhirrahmah), maintained that the muslims have been living in India for centuries and a sizeable majority of them are indigenous to the land, we have a right to settle across the length and breadth of the subcontinet so why be satisfied with just a piece of it? Shaareh Bukhari, Mufti Shariful Haqq Amjadi sahib ('alayhirrahmah) has written a book about this issue, highlighting the disadvantages of dividion of the country, most of which have been found to be true. Ibn Hajar Makki ('alayhirrahmah) was questioned regarding a land which is ruled by non-muslims but the muslims have complete freedom to practise their faith unhindered. Is it wajib to migrate from it? He answered that it is not wajib to migrate, rather it is wajib to stay so that the non-muslims may know about Islam and its message may not be obscured from them. Wassalaam
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions The Structure of Scientific Revolutions is a book that might help you answer my questions. It's worth the read. http://projektintegracija.pravo.hr/_download/repository/Kuhn_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions.pdf
Wadood have you inadvertently pressed like on naqsh's post? @naqshbadijamaati: before you say homosexuality is inherent in human beings, genetically speaking, you must prove that. What constitutes evidence for you to prove a 'fact'? For instance how do you prove to me empirically that evolution is a fact? What is ijtihad and when is it applicable? And where do you get your definition of ijtihad from?
AH and AQ are just straightforward people who call a spade as a spade. They also have fear of Allah. They are genuine people bro.
'I came to believe that this was the poet in whose poetry one would find the pleasant odor of his burning heart. I came to believe that this was the poet whose poetry deserved to be celebrated and venerated since his poetry was a message (risālah), his love was faith (imān), and his feelings were a spiritual awakening (intifādah rūhiyyah)—these three traits making him out to be the renewer (mujaddid) of the world in which he lived' Sayyid abul Hasan Nadwi sold Iqbal well to the Syrians http://www.allamaiqbal.com/publications/journals/iqbalquarterly/Spring 2003.htm
it is a strawman and a favourite fantasy of liberals. nobody is opposed to ijtihad - ijtihad on new issues is obligatory. what is amusing is that none of these die-hard liberals and modernists (including iqbal) seem to have even browsed the corpus of usul al-fiqh; yet they diss it, call it old fashioned, throw it in the bin, call for renewal anything. that is because of your narrow mindedness and clinging to the myth. ulama have said long ago that interpretations will change if there is observable proof to the contrary. many books of tafsir are filled with such examples where later imams disagree with elder ones citing observed proof. but certainly, don't expect a revision every few years as cultural mores change and the vast public opinion alters. there are only inductive answers to one of the objections alahazrat raised about the earth being stationary. that is, if you throw a stone in the air, it should not come back on the same place, but follow a parabola; secondly, if you were to hover in a balloon in london in the morning, by afternoon you should be in russia because the earth is rotating and you are hovering above. the explanation given is that the atmosphere also rotates around so you stay where you are. khayr, i am not interested in arguing about it again.
whether Jinnah had a lust for personal power is debatable, because Liaqat Ali Khan of Haryana was another powerful person in the Muslim league, and the most powerful person in Pakistan after its creation
the present day indian Muslims aren't a homogeneous entity either! the hyderabadi Muslims are different from the rest of the telugu-speaking AP Muslims, much less the ones from karnataka the tamil Muslims are different from the keralite ones, notwithstanding the internal differences in cultures between the Urdu-speaking and Tamil-speaking Muslims of TN the konkan coast Muslims are different from gujrati Muslims Muslim biharis are different from UP Muslims kashmiri Muslims are different from bengali Muslims the list goes on. the above mentioned groups are completely at odds with each other in terms of food, clothing, cultural practices & language - just like the pakistani punjabis, pashtoons, balochis, sindhis, etc. i don't see the point you're making my point was that thanks to jinnah's lust for personal power, the overall subcontinental Muslim solidarity, unity, political hold, and (achievable) power (as an ummah) was crumbled
There are a lot of Muslims in Punjab who are migrants from regions that do share a lot in common with Muslims of UP. These are Muslims of eastern half of Haryana and eastern Rajasthan, for example people from Mewat, Rohtak, Jaipur, Alwar, and other Rajasthani regions. However, in Pakistani Punjab, due to inter-marriage and culture, a lot of them have assimilated into the native population. Though frictions still exist for example in cities like Jhang
Brother Asif, you are right, but let me clarify some of your points. I have asked Pakistani academics and people. They deny the word "indian". But they do not deny the Indus Valley Civilization and ancient history and continuity to this day. They claim to be "natives" of the land ( and so do not want to be arabs ). However, the trend of claiming foreign roots is very fashionable in Pakistan. But to me it appears as a legitimate claim of continuity with the Muslims to the west ( Central Asia / Afghanistan / Iran ) as these peoples of the indus valley were far more contiguous to those cultures than to UP people or Bihari people, or Dakkani people. However, underlying these claims of foreign ancestry, for example Awans claiming Qutub Shahi descent, and Arains claiming Arab descent from Sindh, is the commonly accepted fact among Pakistanis that they are descended from native peoples and they respect their 6000 year old history. I have found these ideas as common as being an arab wannabee in the country. Punjabi / Sindhis / Baloch / Pashtuns / Kashmiris are all deeply linked people forming a continuous string of common thought. For example, the migrant Baloch people. They are spread out across the four provinces giving the country a unique feel ( in the midde areas ) that is different and unique to the entire sub continent. The paracha people are another example for KPK and Punjab. Pakistan to india is like Korea to China. Afghanistan to India is like Japan to China, though the Japanese use a script borrowed from the Chinese. Not sure about the Koreans.
