Mufti Shams Ul Huda Razavi

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  1. imranaybani

    imranaybani New Member

    In my very first post I said this is a genuine query...

    None of the brother answer my 3 questions....

    Why should I argue?

    This definition is not suitable at all....

    I got what brother meant when I read it first time only...

    and, is there any rule on forum that we can't ask any questions?

    Then please let me know if there are any rules...

    Give me satisfactory answers of my three questions... and I will get out from here...

    Please don't tell this argument and don't try to defend this kind of statements.

    Let's think it in broader way...

    When I posted my questions in the next post also this guy didn't mention that he was talking about subcontinent people.

    Now, after the post of inquisitive he mentioned.

    I was curious and I asked... if admin does not have any problem with my questions then why you are calling it arguments...

    You answer my 3 questions... I will go...

    Calm down and don't get angry
  2. inquisitive

    inquisitive Well-Known Member

    That's exactly what I was going to say.
  3. Sacred

    Sacred Active Member

    Imran you seem to be trying to start an argument for no reason you get what the brother meant.
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  4. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Brother im only talking about the muslims from within the subcontinent.
  5. imranaybani

    imranaybani New Member

    In subcontinent, each and every Muslim knows about A'la Hazrat....

    What about the other parts of the world?
  6. inquisitive

    inquisitive Well-Known Member

    Shaykh Alawi Maliki: 'When someone from the subcontinent comes and we want to identify if he is a Sunni then we mention Imam Ahmad Rida Khan. If he smiles then we understand he is a Sunni but if he has anger or annoyance then we understand he is something else.
  7. imranaybani

    imranaybani New Member

    And, who made this kind of recognition?

    Can you please provide the statements of Ulema, who used this kind of definition?

    I am curious, because I have seen this kind of definition for the first time.
  8. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    They are kattar sunnis aswell, i just said it as its recognition today.
  9. inquisitive

    inquisitive Well-Known Member

    They too are ardent devotees, they just don't know it yet!
  10. imranaybani

    imranaybani New Member

    hmmm... first time seen the definition of "Sunnism" like this...


    Now, let's think about the second side of coin...

    What we will say to the person, who

    1. have belief in Tawhid as we Sunnis belive,

    2. have extreme love for Huzoor sall Allahu alayhi wa sallam in his heart, as we Sunnis have,

    3. have love for the Khulafa-e-Rashideen radi Allahu ta'ala anhum,

    4. have love for the Ahl-e-Byat-e-Athaar radi Allahu ta'ala anhum as we Sunnis have,

    5. have belief in Taqleed and follows any one Madhhab out of four Madhhabs of Fiqh,

    6. refuting the corrupt sects and hates them and considering them as Kuffar, apostates, heretics, deviants etc. as we Sunnis do and consider



    But, unfortunately above-mentioned person

    1. does not have knowledge about Mujaddid-e-Din-o-Millat, Imam-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, A'la Hazrat, Shah Imam Ahmed Rida Khan Faadhil-e-Baraylwi radi Allahu ta'ala anhu (I know it is very rare in today's age of internet, but not impossible)

    2. this person is ardent devotee of other ancestor e. g. Mujaddid Alf Thani, Imam Rabbani, Ahmed Farooqui Sirhindi radi Allahu ta'ala anhu like so many Turkish people are ardent devotees of . Mujaddid Alf Thani


    Now the questions are,

    1. What we will say to this person? Kattar Sunni or non-Kattar Sunni or any other term?

    2. "Kattar" means staunch, fanatic, extreme, hardbitten etc.

    In Hindi and Gujarati the term "Kattar-waadi" is used for extremists e. g. terrorists of Taliban, ISIS etc.

    And, in our Kaathiyawaad (the region of Saurashtra, Gujarat, India), we use the term "Kattar" for the followers of rotten sects e. g. Kattar Wahabi, Kattar Shia, Kattar Qadiyani etc.

    Is it permissible to use such notorious term for the "Sunnis"?

    However, Sunnism is far away from extremism.

    3. What kind of impact of the Maslak-e-A'la Hazrat, with this kind of attitude, would come on above-mentioned person?



    1. This is a genuine query, and my intention is not to create any fitnah or any kind of mischief.

    2. I have extreme love for Mujaddid-e-Din-o-Millat, Imam-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, A'la Hazrat, Shah Imam Ahmed Rida Khan Faadhil-e-Baraylwi radi Allahu ta'ala anhu

    3. Alhamdulillah, I am an undermost mureed of Huzoor Taaj-us-Shariah, Allama Mufti Muhammad Akhtar Rida Khan Sahab

    4. My father and mother are from the murideen of Mufassir-e-Azam Hind, Hazrat Maulana Muhammad Ibrahim Rida Khan radi Allahu ta'ala anhu (Father of Huzoor Taaj-us-Shariah)

    5. My grandfather was a mureed of Qadi Sadrush Shariah Hazrat Allama Maulana Mufti Mohammed Amjad Ali Aazmi Ridwi radi Allahu ta'ala anhu

    6. I gave short introduction about me and my family, so that, nobody try to think that "I am from the group of Haasid people."
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  11. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    Kattar sunni-ardent devotees of imam ahmed raza khan muhadith e barielly:)
  12. abu Hasan

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  13. Ethical_Barelvi

    Ethical_Barelvi Active Member

    whats kattar sunni
  14. Ridawi78692

    Ridawi78692 Hanafi Maturidi Qadri

    All praise be to allah, endless salutations on the best of creation.

    Alhmadulillah i was blessed with the company of ustadh ul ulama mufti shams ul huda razavi yesterday. Mufti saab is leaving uk today, he will be travelling first to Dubai, from there Mufti saab is going to India. He will stay out of the country for approximately 1-2 months. Pray for mufti sahibs health and do dua allah allows them to more khidmaat of the deen. Theres also some good news for the kattar sunnis soon(mufti saab)


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