Musharaf Hussain's eulogy of the queen.

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  1. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    The fatwa is always on the appearance Zahir. Fatwa is not on what is in humans heart.
  2. Alf

    Alf Active Member

  3. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    We go on the apparent and will consider her a kafir and that she died on kufr. We will not pray at her funeral nor consider her a Muslim.

    However Allah ultimately knows her true fate as on occasions he can cause a kafir to accept Islam just before death. We will consider her a jahannami based on the apparent.
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  4. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Where else do you think a kafir leader who was head of the church and supreme protector of the faith go?
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  5. Alf

    Alf Active Member

    We can not say that the queen is in hell, although you might be informed of that through ilham or kashf- but I don't know the ruling based on that.
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  6. sunnimuslim

    sunnimuslim Active Member

    He will go in hell with his majesty queen if he dont do Toba from his kufr statement. Really pathetic. A Arrogant man
  7. Abu Ibrahim

    Abu Ibrahim New Member

    It's amazing how brazen he is with his nifaaq. Making dua that he be raised with his queen seemed to be the only thing missing from his pathetic speech. I really hope ulama deal with this munafiq accordingly.
  8. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    It's most definitely real, not doctored or edited.
  9. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    I hear what you're saying but in all honesty anyone who attempted it would be wasting their time as in the past when he published his kufriya translation named the Majestic Quran he was pulled up, advised and informed by a group of Ulama including Shaykh Naveed Jameel. What did Musharaf do, he tried character assassinating the scholars who took him to task by having them arrested on false charges, threatening them with Ofsted and reporting them to prevent etc.

    The reality is Musharaf is a Government molvi who knows little about Islam, doesn't care one bit for ilm ul kalam as he has stated this himself. His only interest is in boot licking and securing funding from the government and going on trips to Israel paid for by the Israeli government and it's slave companies.

    People like him have no interest in their afterlife as for him Jannah is whatever he can grasp in the here and now.
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2022
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  10. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    It would be good if this video could be brought to the attention of his peers in the UK. Scholars who can speak to him, explain the ruling, provide evidence etc. There might still be hope that he is just an ignoramus and didnt intentionally throw his imaan away and become a perennialist etc. For the sake of the man's aakhirah, if one of the more well connected people on this forum could bring this to the attention of a legitimate scholar who can engage with Hussain, please act.
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  11. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    if the video isn't edited or doctored - he gave up his iman for an applause!

    It's clear the way he recited the alleged english translation of the verse in the manner of a poetry recital or theatrical performance was to imply that the queen was a righteous lady and shall enjoy the fruits of jannah (knowing full well that she died a disbeliever); he cemented this by adding she rest in peace.

    He needs to renew his iman and nikah, or else Muslims must boycott him as a murtad, at once. His wife and kids, if they have any iman and shame, should desert him if he doesn't renew his iman.

    Wherever the Quran mentions the righteous or the truthful (siddeeqeen, saaliheen, etc.), it's a basic rule that it's talking about Muslims, as iman is a precondition for all those adjectives the Quran and hadith use. These days the trend with murtaddeen and munafiqeen is to use adjectives from the Quran and hadith, but apply western definitions. So munafiq idiots will argue which one of the tories or whigs are more righteous, or which of of kate or anne or camilla are more elegant displays of adab!
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  12. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    So not only is there a lot of needless bootlicking (meaning that bootlicking is at least understandable BUT NOT DEFENSIBLE when the person who's boot you are shining is in a position to do something for you, yet the royal family can't do anything for this guy) but he ends it with words of kufr. What a clown. Unfortunately, he seems like he could have been intelligent and well educated but that hasn't helped him here.
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  13. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

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  14. AMQadiri

    AMQadiri Seeker

    If possible, can you post the original clip here so that we have proof he said it? Not doubting he did but in case someone asks for proof
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  15. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    In every Era there has been so called 'Islamic scholars' who are what you will court scholars. it is why they have no relevance and why the likes of Alahazrat are still being championed today:

    Karoon madhay Ahle-e-Doel Raza
    paray iss bala meyn meree balaa
    Meyn gada hoon apnay Kareem ka
    Mera deen Paara-e-Naan Naheen
  16. IslamIsTheTruth

    IslamIsTheTruth Well-Known Member

    Transcribed from a clip doing the rounds on WhatsApp:

    '"Good evening,

    This evening we are meeting to express our feelings towards one who was remote, but close to us, different yet similar.
    The admired, the most beloved and without a doubt an extraordinary monarch of great britain.

    We are here in a somber mood on a dark night to express our feelings of sadness.
    Her majesty the queen was an incomparable leader, an incomparable monarch, an incomparable diplomat an admirable human being. This was a boundless, pleasing and incredible life of dedication and service to the people of britain and the world.

    My favourite poet is Sir Muhammad Iqbal, he wrote :

    "nigah Buland sukhan dilnawaaz
    Jaan pursohz ye hi hai rakhte safar meray karwan".

    Lofty vision, softly spoken, highly spirited, these are the tools of a great leader.

    Today the nation mourns, every eye sheds a tear, every heart feels sadness, though every tongue pays tribute, everyone sings a eulogy and shares a praise for their queen.

    And over the last 10 days we have heard many adjectives. There is no superlative in the vast English language of nearly half a million words that has been left out. But we believe we have not done justice to the amazing queen.
    No matter how many adjectives and superlatives we use, we can not praise her wholly. This shows the inadequacy of human language to express what is deep in our hearts and minds, and thats why we need the divine words.

    The Holy scripture from our Lord and the Creator, That is the true comforter. Here I present to you a reading from the Holy Quran the book of the Muslims, from the chapter called "The human being" :

    "The righteous keep their promises and are afraid of the horrors of judgment day. They feed the orphan, the needy and the prisoner for the love of God saying, we feed you for the sake of God, we don't want a payment nor thanks. We fear our Lord's day that will be terrifying and gloomy, God will save them from the distress of that day and make them happy and joyful.

    Since they were patient the Lord rewards them with breathtaking gardens, silk clothing, comfortable couches to relax on in a peaceful environment. There will be low hanging branches giving them shade and exotic fruits. They will be served in crystal like silver cups, a drink mixed with ginger from the spring of salsabeel. Young people blessed with eternal youth will serve them. as they relish these delightful scenes they will see an immense blissful kingdom, their gorgeous clothes will be of green silk and brocade. They will wear shiny platinum bracelets and their Lord will give them pure drinks. It will be said, this is the reward for your tireless efforts that have been gratefully recognised."

    May God give us all peace, comfort and our wonderful Queen, May she rest in peace.

    Thank you very much".

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