Nouman Ali Khan is not respectful about RasulAllah ﷺ

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    some deobandi apologist for nouman apparently used tafsir tabari to explain nouman's blasphemy and hinged on the 'in a sense' that nouman inserted. ok smarty, what about the "converted, reverted, took shahadah" comparison? and thereafter the rest of the derisive piece - he calls 'tafseer'.

    NAK's bottom line was that RasulAllah SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam became muslim - al iyadhu billah when the angel appeared.

    shame on scoundrels who have no adab when talking about RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.


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  2. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    in shifa sharif, it is said (see TKM)

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  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    before anything else, i think we should make shifa compulsory for all public speakers. if he/she has not read shifa sharif of qaDi iyaD, they should be refused to speak.

    every pipsqueak who can speak - essentially the ruwaybiDah - is a star today and keeps blabbering without any restraint or second thought.

    in the hadith: a time when truthful will be belied, the liars will be attested as truthful...

    when 'ruwaybiDah' shall become speakers / or 'ruwaybiDah' wll speak. when asked who the 'ruwaybiDah were, he SallALlah alayhi wa sallam said: "trashy, worthless, insignificant, contemptible, useless folk [rajul al-taafah] who will speak on important matters".

    in another narration: 'foolish, impudent, profligates' [safih] talking on matters concerning the generality.

    talkhis of dhahabi from mustadrak al-Hakim:

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    mustadrak of al-Hakim:

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    also in mushkil al-aathar of TaHawi: (in a printed edition, DKI, it is #449-450)

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  4. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    my suggestion to those rascals is "revert to Islam first, convert to Islam first, take shahadah you know, then re-enact the Nikah, then read the Shifa Sharif............." - or else, simply go to hell (with NAK).
  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i have heard some imbeciles making false ta'wils of this explicit insult.

    some molwi wanted to be holier than NAK himself and he said:

    "As for the Prophet alayhi assalatu wassalaam accepting islam then that is jahala not kufr because he has misunderstood the linguistic meaning of eemaan to be the technical meaning. i.e. amaana r rasool refers to the linguistic meaning of eeman not the technical meaning and he took it as the technical meaning"

    this is sheer idiocy or an attempt to appear oversmart. where from thin air did he conjure up this eeman / amana technical thing? my retort to this molvi sab: in all probability, nouman knows more arabic than you.

    leave this technical non-technical claptrap: nouman explicitly said the same as "converted, reverted, took shahadah..." regardless of how you want to flip it, the result of nouman's insulting statement was that RasulAllah sallALlahu alayhi wa sallam was not a muslim and became a muslim. al-iyadhubillah.

    if this does not make your blood boil or offend your senses - you should be ashamed of your lack of self-respect. doob maro.

    my sincere advice to these cowed molvis is to read shifa sharif.

    PS: tell this molvi sab what would he tell someone who said that his father grandfather were all kafirs and say: "technically, kafir means a farmer as said in the qur'an..."

    what a dolt.
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  6. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    Mufti Muhammad Akmal on Nouman Ali Khan

    Transliteration :

    Yeh intihayi jahil tareen insaan hai jo is tarah bole ke ma'azAllah summa ma'azAllah ke nabiy.e.kareem musalman hue hain. Yeh dairah.e.islam se kharij hai isko tajdeed.e.iman tajdeed.e.nikah karna chahiye.

    Aur aise jahil admi ko hargiz speeches ke liye na bithaya jaye aur na hi iski speeches me jaya jaye jo itna gumrah hai jo isko yeh tak nahin maloom hai bewaqoof insan ko.


    As salam alaykum, This is an extremely ignorant/jahil person who says that ma'azAllah summa ma'azAllah that the merciful prophet became Muslim/converted.

    he is expelled from Islam and has to renew his faith (shahadah) and renew his nikah.

    And such an ignorant person should not be called to deliver speeches neither should one go to his speeches, for he is so deviated that he is not aware of such things (basics).
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  7. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    and I feel we have a precedent in rasulAllah (peace be upon him) ordering hazrat hassan bin thabit (raDyiAllahu'anhu) to consult with hazrat Abu Bakr (raDyiAllahu'anhu) to learn the lineage of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and leave it out and abuse (hujw) the rest of the quraysh ancestors. These, I think, must not have been the kufr of those people that hazrat hassan (raDyiAllahu'anhu) was supposed to deride, but a sort of character assassination.

    This is reported in hadith which are in one of the saHihayn (I forget which). Do correct me if I have misunderstood.


    also, our ulama have recorded - or at-least conveyed from the records of the dayabina themselves - the "immoral misadventures" of their demi-gods. Although I personally dislike speaking about these indecencies - I think that those who did, had a sound reason for de-robing the ugliness of these "beauty pageant" contenders.

    Allah knows best.
  8. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    this might be 'personal' but it is by no means 'private' - we didn't go looking for his personal failings - it's the people who were affected (or claim to have been) who made it public - and he denied the charges initially and we left it at that.

    but afaik he did not reply to the screenshots that surfaced subsequently - that they were fake or edited.

    we need not close our eyes when something is searingly obvious - it matters who people take their deen from - so when the personal failings of a claimant to knowledge becomes public - and they get proven - we can't be faulted for decrying them.

    or so I think.
  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    6 hours ago from now.
    i will remove the murtad etc. posts.
  10. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    his response seems just an attempt to avoid any headache.

    he has a business to run, hence the lip service.

    we hope that he will TRULY repent - PUBLICLY, EXPLICITLY. that is what Shariah demands of such an act.

    @brother abu Hasan: if we feel the repentance is sincere, we should post it on the forum.

    however, we should NOT remove the posts; that is for everyone to learn from.
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  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    apparently in a response to brother aqdas post, nouman said:'i repent'


    but this is not serious. if he is serious:

    1. he should categorically repent from disrespectful statement to RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam in that video.

    2. renew his faith and publicly say that he has renewed it (and nikah; which is his own responsibility, we will assume he does it)

    3. edit the video and remove the offensive segment and publicly put out a statement to not share that segment/ video that contains that segment.


    we will keep our word of withdrawing our protest. in sha'Allah.
  12. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    very true.

    he charges USD 11 per month from each member. if he has a few thousand members, just do the maths - he makes millions every year. so this is his business. despite that, he keeps his head empty.

    that's what happens with these ignorant speakers - when they have nothing to offer, they fill the gaps with filth.
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  13. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i think we should not mix his personal issues with his opinions and speeches about islam.

    i don't really care - nor is it my business - about his personal issues. also with his tafsir lessons, our notice was drawn to this segment by a brother in the first post. hence our comment.

    if nouman repents and categorically states that he has repented from this disrespect to RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam, and will edit the portion in the clip (assuming there are no more blasphemies) and a short message to not circulate that segment, we will withdraw.

    i will delete my posts/tweets criticising nouman and this particular incident. (tafsirs will stay as they are on another thread).

    our objective was to obtain a retraction and if we get it, we will withdraw our protest too.

    Allah ta'ala know best. wa billahi't tawfiq.
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  14. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Allah alone knows how many ignorant muslims' imaan has been a casualty to the glib ignoramuses swarming all over the internet!

    but one cannot fail to notice that this irreverence is a specialty of the devbandis and those who hang around with them - the legacy of the four murtadds from the subcontinent - adding heat to the fire they are already engulfed in!

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  15. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    well! I did not know that the khinzeer had been exposed so well - so well in fact that this tosh had to be written.

    I'll deserved fame brings well-deserved humiliation.
  16. Umar99

    Umar99 Veteran

    Not to forget his fabricated Hadith incident in which not only did he invent a narration but also laughed at and mocked a Sahabi e Rasool RadiAllahu Anhu.
  17. abu nibras

    abu nibras Staff Member

    From the dates this is from a few years ago, and has over 500k views, and nobody till now has pointed out that this was said. Goes to show that the followers of this rascal have no idea about what they are listening to.

    But let this be noted that his zillat in the local community and then globally with his shameless, naked selfies are after this. Indeed Allah taàla has blackened his wretched face. May Allãh tàãla protect us from such nasty utterences and consequences.

    This is a call for the people of Ilm who can speak, there is a void which rascals like him are filling.

    Search and you will see his clickfunnel marketing ads all over to sell these sessions in numerous locations including this one bahrain.

    And in his glee to impress, cracking a joke about how his voice is not presentation ready, this youtube scoundrel utters these kufriyyaat, in different and multiple ways, and has no idea what he is doing as he is talking about the ikram of rasul Allah sallallahu alayhi wa alihi wa sallam one moment and saying putrid things in the next breath.

    This Dungman Khan is like the crazy self taught baker who packs dung and sells them as hot and fresh loaves of bread.

    May Allah taala protect us from such filth.
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  18. Aqib alQadri

    Aqib alQadri Veteran

    (subHaan Allah, it is yet another miracle of the Holy Qur'an)

    the rascal cannot even comprehend that he is contradicting himself

    when the Qur'an says (and he repeats it in his own words) "the messenger believed" - it says, the "Messenger" - so how was he the Messenger before believing?

    la Hawla wa laa quwwata illa billah.
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  19. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator


    learn english before you preach in arabic dumbo.
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  20. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    i have moved the tafasir of surah shuura, v52 to a tafsir thread.

    they may cite this aayat, but this aayat does not say, "iman from kufr" as nouman expressly and insists upon by saying just like one converts, reverts, takes shahadah.

    al-iyadhu billah.


    the tafsir of this verse is in the link above.

    nas'alu Allaha al-aafiyah.

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