Pir Irfan Shah’s Shia views|Mufti Zahid Mahmood Jalali Munazara Challenge

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  1. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    that is the way of thinking of bani israil. Islam teaches otherwise.




  2. Khanah

    Khanah Veteran

    Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence

    He's probably not part of some conspiracy, he's most likely just an idiot
  3. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    I distanced myself from Iran Shah a few years ago when he first made the statement that (nauzubillah) Allah himself 'swears'. This was nothing less than what deobandis stated. And we see today how he has been disgraced (and continues to be). He had lots of time to do taubah but instead continued in his arrogance. And Allah hates the arrogant.

    These people think that there is some kamaal in them that they have been born in a Sayyid household and that they can now do as they please. The rest of the 'insignificant' Muslims should bow down to them no matter what they do. PAQ was another one with this exact mentality who in almost every speech used to boast about him being Sayyid.

    And then there are those Sayyids that are truly humble. You can see the difference between these two groups!
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  4. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    Apart from it being turned into a sideshow, do the brothers think there is a nefarious agenda behind it? It just seems like some darker forces are at play.
  5. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    his sayyid blackmails are seriously nauseating. it's almost as if he thinks sayyids have authority to twist aqidah, fiqh, shariah, anything willy nilly, plus only rawafid throw these sayyid blackmails and crocodile tears so much. real sayyids who follow their blessed ancestors are strong and resilient and don't look for such cheap publicity and sympathy. their nobility and beauty of character always precedes them, as opposed to such detestable arrogance and childish 'smartness'.

    so does he also accept sayyid abul aala maududi and Ahmed khan too?

    this pathetic beghayrat old man is a waste of everyone's time.
  6. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Wow, what an 'ilmi' refutation of Zahid Jalali Sahib by Iran Shah! He deserves a prize for his best response till date.

    Jahan deen gaya wahan akal bhi gayi!
  7. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

  8. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

  9. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    So Iran Shah is now applying the verse that was revealed for Siddique Ayesha (ra) and using it to label anyone who uses the word 'khata' for any of the Ahle Bayt as a 'munafiq'! He has now gone too far by making his own meanings of verses to suit his own purpose. This man's soul is dead!

  10. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    Very true. Ae molvi boun waddi chavlan maarda renda aan




    The above Urdu content is from an aalim i know.
  11. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Somebody forwarded me a link to this video of Iran Shah at a Shia gathering. Not sure exactly when it took place but the clip seems to have been uploaded a week ago so possibly recent.

    Must be receiving some big envelopes with plenty of Shia money
  12. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    These people are jahils. It is not the way of the ulema to deceive people and speak open lies. They have signs of hypocrisy in them and for sure these people cannot even be considered to belong to the ahle sunnat!

    We cannot even pray behind such people!
  13. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    Chaval Zaman is claiming victory when in actuality everyone can see from Jalali camps clips that Chaval Zaman went into hiding and turned his phones off. And Iran Shah wouldn't disclose his location on the call because he knew they'd intellectually pile driver him.

    These clowns can go around calling themselves 'Ulama e Zahra' all they like to make themselves feel better but everyone can see they're just Shia Muppets and nothing more. They have no substance, no class, no morals or principals and no sunniyat!
  14. Waqar786

    Waqar786 Veteran

    A sorry state of affairs and a real shame that they can't just sit down and have an academic discussion.
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  15. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Iran Shah & Co got a big shock. Apparently they made an announcement that they are in Lodhran and challenged the Jalali camp to confront them. They did not expect the Jalali camp to immediately travel there the same day. Suddenly Iran Shah and his minions have gone into hiding and perhaps have ready fled the town!

  16. Sunni Jaag

    Sunni Jaag Active Member

  17. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

    Irfan Shah refusing to inform Jalali group of his location when they want to face him for a munazara. A few days ago he was saying that it's easy to record clips against him but nobody has the courage to face him. What happened now!

  18. shahnawazgm

    shahnawazgm Veteran

  19. AR Ahmed

    AR Ahmed Veteran

    This so-called "pir", so called "hujjat" of nothingness has had these problems since 2017 if not earlier. I could see something was up. There is no old/new Irfan shah mashadi. It was all a deceptive facade.
  20. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    bhai aap ko kyun sharm aati hai?

    mujhe bas afsos hai ke ayse log kabhi buzurg kahlate bhi the...
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