Assalam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa barakatuhu, This is my first post on this forum. Ive been reading the threads for a while now and masha Allah they are very enlightening, particularly brother Abu Hasan's posts. Just to give a quick background: Alhamdulillah im a Sunni Muslim with baya'h with Habib Umar and spent time in Tarim, Yemen at the dowra program in the summer of 2007. I I was not too aware of the deo-brelwi conflict until a few years back since I never really paid it any attention. However, after spending some time with deobandis and considering them to be Sunnis (without realizing the true differences) I came to a realization that there were some oddities and ajeeb contradictions that this group displayed. This is when i began to do more research in to the conflict. And of course, the thought crossed my mind that what does Habib Umar say about this?..etc. So there is the one audio on youtube that seems to explain Habib Umar's position that both groups are from Ahlussunnah... However, if you pay attention to the audio, its a general message, and I think it needs to be interpreted correctly...if Habib Umar considers them Ahlusunnah, then he probably is not aware of the depth of the conflict or perhaps he is referring to the general awaam of deobandis who themselves dont know the issues, and by doing so is trying to pull them towards the correct understanding of Ahlusunnah with gentleness and hikmah For example: if an Aami claims to be deobandi (without truly realizing what he is claiming), then perhaps for him, hearing Habib Umar's message will draw him towards Habib Umar (thinking that Habib is neutral) and then go on to learning correct Aqeedah. Now i know the above may sound a bit far-fetched for some... So I personally lean towards the second more reasonable explanation that he truly does not know the depth of the issue nor does he have the time to investigate an issue on the other side of the world when he himself is very busy and immersed in dealing with the affairs of Darul Mustafa, Tarim, and the greater Hadhramawt etc. Why do I lean towards the second explanation? I personally recently met a buzurg of around 80-90 years old who was a direct Mureed/Khalifa of Shaykh Yusuf Hashem Rifai. This buzurg (Pakistani) told me that before Shaykh passed away (about a year or so ago), he mentioned to the buzurg (paraphrasing): "I want to thank you for opening my eyes to the reality of the deobandis and who they truly are, if it wasnt for you, I would have continuously been deceived by them.." So the reality is that IT IS VERY POSSIBLE for High level Arab Ulema to NOT KNOW the depth of the conflict and the truth behind it. Wallahu Alam.