بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم To be fair I think that's what the brother meant by saying, "can anyone translate whats being said" at least hats what i understood what he said. I have heard from a few scholars, regarding Moulvi Anwar Shah Kashmiri, that he studied in Deoband, but not in the darul uloom of the deobandiyyah and that he use to attend Urs and mawlid gathering, but was neem gharam towards the deobandiyyah, since he had several sanads that reached back through the akaabir of Deobandiyyah. Moulvi Rashid Ghumgiya in the early days before tazkirah rasheediyyah (I have a first edition copy given to me as a gift) and his infamy was hiding himself a sunni alim, hence he gain ijaza's from Imdadullah Thanvi Imam hajjar Makki, so the awaam where duped in effect (a famous trick of these deo-ghandi's). When he returned back to kashmir Moulvi sahib attended sunni gatherings. Wonder if any brothers have anything similar to this or can confirm he was an out and out deo-gandi. I know of a few deobandi sufi circle, yes deobandi ones that give their tariqat shajarah as silsila chistiyyah through Moulvi Rashid Ghumgiyya and/or Naqshbandi Owaisi silsilah shajarah through Moulvi Anwar shah Kashmir.