Shaykh Asrar debates a flat earther

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  1. AbuLabeeb

    AbuLabeeb New Member

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

    I would just like to clarify exactly what happened and the concerns in this thread as my name has been mentioned.

    Firstly I have nothing again the Shaykh I take from him a lot and admire his knowledge. He is the crown to my head.

    This was not a debate, reasons why:
    1. The session is our fortnightly group discussion that we have on various topics, and the mediator invited the shaykh also is closely affiliated with. He had requested that shaykh participates and made it very clear there is no debate only Q&A type discussion and shaykh to come as a guest to answer questions. (I have all the chats screenshoted clearly stating a Q&A).

    2. As we all know through previous debates shaykh only debates in accordance to the rules of 'Munazarah rashidiya'

    3. Throughout the video you can see it was only question and answers no responses as such that would be given in debate, no set times etc.

    As for the recording I personally did not want to be in the video and before the session I requested not to be in it. In which some agreement was made that nothing will go public until I say so. This agreement was breached. Despite many contacts to the shaykh directly asking to remove the video or at least have no element of debate in there with constant back and forth with eveb the mediator requesting the shaykh also all attempts were a fail.

    As for why I am hidden is due to my services/employment and affiliation with Dawat-e-Islami and how it can be taken out of proportion I covered it up with this scenario. Even though I am openly a flat earther as the brother mentioned.

    I was not requested to debate or anything infact on the day I only had questions in mind and just an explanation of what flat earth model is.

    Prior to the session there was no communication between me and the shaykh directly.

    The comment about people left the flat earther, I didn't know of anyone like that also, the comments on the YouTube are more negative to the shaykh and positive for me. And to me Im not bothered who believes it or who doesn't, Im not ganna loose sleep of this. Khair ان شاءالله

    ان شاءالله more on this coming soon on the website.

    I won't be responding to anything else unless needed.

    جزاك الله خيرا
    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
  2. Brother Barry

    Brother Barry Veteran

    You're correct it's the same individual, the initial speaker actually let his name slip when he said ustaad habeeb. He is actually a graduate of Dawat e islamis jamia tul Madina in Bradford. I found it odd that Habeeb Attari Madani wanted to hide his voice, name and face whilst discussing this but he has flat earther on his Facebook bio and openly promotes it on his site.

    I personally think Shaykh Asrar did a brilliant job in answering the questions on this topic.
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  3. Hamza_

    Hamza_ “Stumbling is not falling.”

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  4. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    The flat earther is influencing people. Shaykh was requested to debate. After debate, people did leave the flat earther.
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  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    why is he wasting his time?
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  6. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

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