Shaykh Yaqoubi's Khalifa supports Kadhabiyya

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  1. .:Amatullah:.

    .:Amatullah:. Active Member

    Here you are sending la'n upon scholars but in your last post you have completely changed your tone. What is the foundation of your cursing Shaykh Faisal (and yes your words inferred la’n upon him also)? If you follow the way of Sayyidi Imam Ahmad Rida Khan then read Fatawa Ridawiyyaa, Volume 10, Pages 193-194 and you will learn that it is not permissible in the Shari'ah to attribute even fisq let alone bid'ah and kufr to a Muslim without investigation. So what investigation have you conducted into Shaykh Faisal's affairs with these people? Is merely praising a deviant a sign of misguidance and deviancy? Could it not be that the Shaykh is unaware of their deviancy?

    Whatever your manhaj is (and it doesn't seem to be the Noble Manhaj of Imam Ahmad Rida Khan) you should be consistent in it: Shaykh 'Alawi al-Maliki makes tarahhum upon ibn Abd al Wahhab in his famous work Mafahimu Yajibu an Tusahhaha.

    In addition, Shaykh Muhammad Zahid al-Kawthari, in his work Maqalat al-Kawthari, refers to Ashraf Ali al-Tahanwi as al-‘Allama al-Awhad, Shaykh al-Mashaykh, al-Muhaddith al-Kabeer and as Hakim al-Ummah. He also calls him the author of numerous works, which reach about 500 in number. Imam al-Kawthari then goes onto praise al-Tahanwi’s works ‘Ihya al-Sunan’ and ‘Jami’ al-Athar, ’(pg. 68 of the Cairo edition). He also praises Shabir Ahmad 'Uthmani (one of the main students of al-Tahanwi) and refers to Dar al-Ulum Deoband as the al-Azhar of the Indian subcontinent, (pgs. 74, 75).
    Furthermore, Peer Mahr Ali Shah says regarding Ismail Ali Dehlawi: ‘Shakkar Allahu sa’yahu’ ‘May Allah Reward his efforts.’ (Malfoozat Mahria).
    There are many more quotes which can be presented but I’m sure you will understand the purpose of this brief post; Sunni ‘Ulama have praised innovators but for many reasons such as political reasons which determine their safety, and this is allowed in the Shari’a. Others have praised them due to being unaware of the deviancy of those whom they praise: this appears to be the case of al-Kawthari. Nonetheless, we have a good opinion of these scholars and justify their words so why have a double standard when it comes to other scholars such as Shaykh Faisal?
    If you intend on maligning Shaykh Faisal then consistency would be that you curse al-Kawthari and al-Maliki also.

    It is clearer than the morning sun that you intend on causing fitnah amongst Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah.
    Side note: Islamic Republic of Iran? Are you joking? The country is run by Ithna Ashari Shi’a who are deemed disbelievers umuman (al-Fatawa al- Ridawiyya al-Sharif). Hardly an Islamic Republic...
    Control the filth which exits your mouth for you are tarnishing the image of Sayyidi Imam Ahmad Rida Khan. Hows Sharh Mia Amil going?
  2. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    We must make efforts to tell Shaykh Faisal Abd alRazzaq, that faraz has non-Sunni 'Aqida. He believes in contingent impossibility of attributing lying to Allah ta'ala.

    Shaykh Faisal Abd alRazzaq is Sunni. In Sunni 'Aqida we reject Imkan al-Kadhib, and we reject the support of deobandi wahabis and their supporters.

    Shaykh Faisal Abd alRazzaq should be instead correcting the bad 'Aqida. He should instead be condemning RIS and the non-Sunnah activities over there. RIS is not a neutral function. The responsibility falls on our shoulders, the Sunnis. It is we who should clearly inform our scholars.

    It hurts greatly to see Habib 'Umar say 'al siraj al muneer' for a deviant place. So many innocent Sunnis will now be fooled into joining these people who promote bad 'aqida.

    It is our responsibility, us who understand and know, to inform those who dont know.

    It is great injustice by all of us collectively, generally speaking, when a Sunni 'Alim supports knowingly or unknowingly people who promote the wrong 'Aqida or those who insult the Prophet salAllahu 'alaihi wa alihi wa sallam.
  3. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

    sorry AQ.

    All i'm saying is that Wadood is attacking scholars for stupid reasons, like attending events where there is no strick segregation and there are deviant speakers. Then he compares these scholars to Shaykh Yaqoubi, who he claims hasn't and wouldn't attend such events.

    But didn't Shaykh Yaqoubi attend the GPU event, which in terms of segregation and speakers, is far 'worse' than RIS and Wembley mawlids? And Shaykh Yaqoubi defended his attendance at this conference, in the IslamiQA Q&A which appeared on Islam Channel (not exactly a sunni channel either).

    Hence, Wadood needs to apply the same standards to all ulema before he attacks them.


    Let me make myself clear too, I'm not attacking any of the ulema mentioned here. I AM MAKING critique of Wadood who clearly has an agenda against certain ulema - but his reasons for criticising them in this thread are particularly poor, and refuted.
  4. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    are you arguing with yourself k786? sorry, i just didn't understand your last post.
  5. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

    I repeat the above. Go and take a look the line-up of speakers and scholars at the global peace and unity event 2010; then go on your stupid time-wasting tirade. You are talking about RIS and segregation - even salafis were standing outside GPU boycotting the event and discouraging others from walking in due to the 'deviance' of speakers and free-mixing of genders.

    You cannot attack Habib 'Ali and several other scholars for attending these conferences and then not saying anything about the above. It shows your bias against certain scholars and that your arguments are just a smokescreen for some other agenda. Once again, fear Allah.
  6. jasimisbest2

    jasimisbest2 Active Member

    Coming from you, who's pir is known to have attacked schlors, imams and Sahaba's.

  7. muslim 1st Sunni 2nd

    muslim 1st Sunni 2nd Active Member

    Inshallah, I pray that people will get rewarded accordingly. Those who are abusing and insulting others unjustly Ya Allah let it be revealed to all.
  8. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    abu fadl you are the same old liar. I have not attacked Shaykh Yaqoubi anywhere.
  9. Abu Fadl

    Abu Fadl Banned

    Wadood, you should be careful in the way you attack scholars like Shaikh Yaquoobi. Have shame as you have insulted many on here. You are up to some kind of dirty game.
  10. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    The wembely mawlid by RMW in 2005, Martin Lings and Shaykh Yaqoubi both were invited. Did the presence of that perennialist go well with Shaykh Yaqoubi?

    keller, who was also there, condemned the presence of Martin Lings.

    In this coming 2011 RIS function, the father of all "Muslim" perennialism, iranian Hossein Nasr, is invited. His picture is below Shaykh Yaqoubi, in the featured speakers section, and he is one of the prime guests of hanson. Hossein Nasr claims to be a shadhili shaykh, and is also a shiite.

    Shaykh Yaqoubi will never such a gathering. Below is the picture of Hossein Nasr

    This is hossein nasr's biography at RIS

    It does even mention that this man is a kafir. They are calling him president of traditional studies, "major intellect".
  11. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

    SAcred Knowledge made a public announcement saying the Shaykh won't attend UMC. They haven't done that for RIS.

    Let alone Sayyid Abul Huda attending GPU - what do you say to that?
  12. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Rather than attacking me, as I speak the truth, send shame on those who sit with ahl al bid'a in frendship with them forgetting our strict principles of Shari'at. May Allah turn their faces black with darkness.
  13. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    If brothers and sisters in the UK remember, the sulha kulli UMC advertised throughout the UK, about Sayyiduna Abul Huda attending their event in July this year. They even put pictures of him all over their banners and pamphlets.

    But, alHamduliLAllah, Sayyidi Abul Huda did not attend that event and neither hanson's RIS.
  14. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

    All you concern yourself with are others and what they do. still scouring the internet despite nasiha from others. you tried to create 'shock' in the Habib 'Ali thread, just because he was interviewed with a bishop but you didn't even understand what was going on in the interview. Shame on you.
  15. khadimu786

    khadimu786 Active Member

  16. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    In this new video of zaytuna institute's "reviving the islamic spirit", at 0:23 seconds, Faisal Abdarrazak is sitting adjacent to Mark Hanson and Waymann Landgraf. This is a religious event. There are non-mahram young women sitting immediately behind all three of them. The audience is freely-mixed, with men sitting within women.

    Today's Islamic celebrities do not really care about the principles of our Deen. I am certain, Shaykh Muhammad al Yaqoubi will never attend such an event.
  17. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    If brothers remember, faisal abdarrazak was involved in this Scared Knowledge program

    He does know Sunni 'ulama as Shaykh AHmad Noorani raHimahuAllah ta'ala and Shaykh Qamar az Zaman al 'Adhami HafizuhuAllah ta'ala
  18. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Shaykh Muhammad al Yaqoubi's Khalifa, Faisal abdarrazzak, supports the deobandi kadhabbi faraz rabbani and his new venture called seekers-hub

    must watch

    Habib 'Umar calls the Kadhabiyya Seerker's Hub "markaz al mubarak" "markaz al siraj al muneer"

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