Sir Syed Ahmed Khan of Aligarh - Murtadd?

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  1. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    for a common man, yes.
    but for scholars who need to refute. this is the material.
     
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  2. Akmal Khan

    Akmal Khan New Member

    It is better to stay away from him and his work
     
  3. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    there ought to be some others, if you search. but whenever i get time, i will post some more references.

    if you are looking for books by sir-syed, a quick list:

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  4. Akmal Khan

    Akmal Khan New Member

    Thanks Abu Hasan Sahab for creating thread, this will be helpful for future readers
     
  5. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    his essays translated in english by his son (according to encyclopedia brittanica)

    download here.

    though it is surprising how easily he references western authors. in my opinion, it is a partially ghost written book - the views of sirsyed were translated and heavily infused with orientalist ideas and interpretations, and this is explained by the reference to the "friend" who helped.
     
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  6. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    he wrote essays translated by [probably] his son in english (and corrected by a 'friend')

    in which he denied miyraj, shaq e sadr etc.

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  7. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    in his risalah al-dua wa'l istijabah, p5 and p7 (the whole book actually of about 30 pages)

    he rejects destiny or its types:

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    and rationalises the meaning of "acceptance". meaning there is no tangible acceptance. it is just the positive feeling one gets by doing dua and then goes on to do something. that stimulus to do the thing is the meaning of istijabah.



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  8. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    he rejected and rationalised the miracles of prophets.
    and bowdlerized the tafasir.

    for example according to him, 'ababil' as small birds with stones dropping on abraha is a metaphor for smallpox.
    according to this neychari dajjal, the hordes of abraha were afflicted with smallpox and this is what is described as "small stones".

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    he brazenly accused tafasir of being full of 'improbable stories' and hence rejected them. and made up his own tafsir that he thought was 'rational'.
     
  9. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    denial of existence of angels. v1/p149


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  10. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    tafsir v1/p52

    denial of existence of angels and satan - and claiming they are just abstract concepts and have no physical, tangible existence.

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  11. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    v1/p38-39

    here he denies physical existence of paradise - and physical pleasures and comforts therein.
    even berates paradise.

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  12. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    tafsir sir syed v1/ p29

    round about way to establish that prophets follow what is human instinct. he uses this to emphasise that all ahkam should follow and be congruent with what humans deem right, du jour.



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  13. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    one of my WIP was documentation of sirsyed's kufriyat.


    tafsir sir syed, v1/p28

    payghambar, prophet, nabi is not restricted to those exalted personages considered as prophets in islam.

    a blacksmith can be a 'prophet' of his craft,
    a poet is a 'prophet' of his craft
    a doctor is a 'prophet' of his craft.

    "prophets' are doctors of spritual illnesses.



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  14. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    syed ahmed khan was a murtad who was besotted with 'western progress and science' and denied anything that was not tangible - or deemed superstition by the west.

    he was the 1800 version of the notables of RIS.

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  15. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.



    listen to this kid at the end - around 8 minutes and further - his own mureed says there were 68 fatwas of takfir against him (of course all 68 can't be from Imam Ahmad Raza), and notice he says clearly "sir" was a big time proponent of Muslim-hindu unity as are all devbandis too!
     
  16. Mohammed Nawaz

    Mohammed Nawaz Corrections are always welcomed with appreciation

  17. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

     
  18. Akmal Khan

    Akmal Khan New Member

    Anyone please spread light on Ahle Sunnah Scholars view on Sir Syed Ahmed Khan,Was he misquided or a kafir?
     

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