SunniPath Now Dar al-Tawfiq

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  1. faqir

    faqir Veteran

    thing is.....if one were really serious wouldn'd they just go to mahad al-fath directly?! i don't know how many foreign graduates they've had in the past but there must be a fair few by now.
  2. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    That would be something. May be students might also attend classes at Ma'had al-Fath for that purpose? Shaykh Ashraf, an Egyptian Hanafi Scholar, who studied under Awliya Allah in Damascus, and student of Shaykh Nuh, Allah bless him, is a part of this curriculum. He is a graduate of the blessed Ma'had al-Fath himself.
  3. Abu Fadl

    Abu Fadl Banned

    ibn adam is not 'sunni' deobandi. he is a graduate of dar ul uloom bury. faraz, ibn adam and all these other munafiqs are deobandis through and through, they just do taqiya.
  4. bro abu fadl is correct. taqi baymaani is a open gustaakh and hardcore deobandit. anyone who goes to learn deen from him can only be either a deobandit himself or incredibly naive/stupid.

    his utterly amateurish fatwa on mawlid --in which he was stating the traditional position of the akafireen of deoband and not engaging in taqiyyah like the 'sunni' deobandis like ibn adam and others on sunnipath by pretending that deobandis permit mawlid--was rightfuly demolished by shaykh gf haddad.

    these deobandis are such hypocrites i get angry just writing their name!
  5. faqir

    faqir Veteran

  6. but the sunnipath scholars with all due respect ARE deobandi sympathisers...
  7. Said

    Said Active Member


    As-salamu 'alaykum,

    Shaykh Faraz is no longer a member of the SunniPath Academy staff. He has his own website/academy - SeekersMedia.
  8. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    I agree with you Sidi Sher Khan.
  9. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran

    Nobody has a sticker of Deobandi stuck on his forehead. You cannot make out the creed of a shaykh through few hours of suhba. It takes a quick slip of mask to expose their allegiance and beliefs.

    I have no doubt that a number of neo-deobandi shaykhs are indeed 'sweet', 'genius', 'sincere' etc., but how many of these have come out to refute the sordid works of their scholars? Why do they seek to defend the indefensible quotes of their deobandi akabirs? Why do they place the honour of their elders above that of Allah (azza wa'jal) and the Prophet (sallallahu alyhi wasallam)? If these neo-deobandis do not give away their allegiance so easily these days, it is simply because they admit that their elders had been wrong.

    If Barelwis have been laggard in providing company to Faraz Rabbani, Hamza Karamali and other Arab/Western shaykhs, then it is no fault of theirs. These scholars are mere pygmies in front of some of the scholars of the subcontinent. Barelwis are not beholden to the new breed of Arab scholars for proving that deobandis are misguided. These issues have been discussed ad nauseam on this forum.

    For more colour on the instigators for Sh Nuh's write-up check the following thread:

    Why do you think that the label of 'deobandi' is so offensive? Is it because you believe that deobandis are deviants?
  10. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Yes Shaykh Nuh advised Shaykh Faraz to go and study under Taqi Usmani. So now please label Shaykh Nuh as 'deobandi'. I would ask the moderators to please check the previous post of Abu Fadl and consider banning him and sending him back to
  11. Abu Fadl

    Abu Fadl Banned

    You have to be pretty gullible to think they are not deobandi. This faraz guy was recently studying from taqi usmani
  12. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Sidi Sher Khan are you sure? Please answer this question. Because 'lying' especially in this case can be very detrimental. I am telling you the truth, they are NOT DEOBANDI. Is this a topic to discuss? SubhanAllah why put words into the mouths of people who say they are NOT DEOBANDI. Anyone who has MET Shaykh Hamza KaramAli knows that he is NOT A DEOBANDI. Many other Sunni scholars associate with deobandis too, including Habib 'Ali. Shaykh Hamza and Shaykh Faraz were both handed info by deobandis. Where were the barelwis? Why did they not hand their info to these two sweet people. Many other Sunni teachers are being handed down info by the deobandis. Soon would people start calling them 'deobandi'? Is Shaykh Buti deobandi too?

    When did this talk of Shaykh Faraz and Shaykh Hamza being the sole sources of deobandism to Shaykh NuH arise? I am amazed. All these teachers are surrounded by deobandis. Where are the Barelwis? Why are they not providing information to these people.

    I have seen these scholars and they are not 'Deobandi' neither 'Barelwi', though they associate with both the groups, because they have no choice. They never deny anyone, but treating all as among themselves.

    Judge people by their true character of sincerity. Look at Shaykh Hamza KaramAli and then judge if he is 'deobandi'
  13. sherkhan

    sherkhan Veteran


    I'm afraid each one of them is. To qualify as a deo, one needn't be from subcontinent. Messrs. Faraz & Hamza Karamali were instrumental in representing deo point of view to Sh. Nuh Keller, which led him to give clean chit to Gangohi, Thanvi & Nanotwi. Check the acknowledgements.

    Sidi Faraz swears by Mufti Usmani. Anyway this issue has been discussed many times over in this forum and there is nothing left for you to clarify.
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  14. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    Nope. None of them are deobandi. Lets see who is deobandi.

    The people who run the Sunni Path and now Dar al-Tawfiq

    Shaykh Faraz (he's no deobandi)
    Shaykh Hamza KaramAli (he's not deobandi either)
    Shaykh Sohail Hanif (not deobandi as well)
    and all other scholars teaching the Summer courses are not deobandi as well

    and they are not 'barelwi' either. I hope this makes it clear to everybody
  15. Abu Fadl

    Abu Fadl Banned

    watch it, because the guys running this thing are deobandi.
  16. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    They have excellent courses this Summer taught by excellent young Sunni teachers.

    Sidi Hamza Karam'Ali whom I know is a genius. He is a person who is sufi at heart, kind, and excellent brother.

    This institute is in the same area as the Zawiya of Shaykh NuH Ha Mim Keller hafizuhuallah, may Allah change more hearts through his efforts.
  17. Wadood

    Wadood Veteran

    alHamduLilAllah Sunnipath is now established as a insitute in 'Amman. I had recieved an email a week ago and did not post the news here.

    The website of Dar al-Tawfiq is

    May Allah ta'ala help Ahl al-Sunnah everywhere and put barakah in their efforts every where and give more opportunities to our scholars to teach students.

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