"T"raditionalists and traditionalists

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  1. Unbeknown

    Unbeknown Senior Moderator

    Brother is there a special reason for appending sidi/shaykh ? it gives me the creeps.
     
  2. Ghulam

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  4. Ghulam

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    Does Sidi Nuh need to re-visit the books of Ilm al Kalam again?

    'The great Muslim scholar, Imam Ghazali, includes in this category those who have only been reached with a distorted picture of the Messenger of Islam (Allah bless him and give him peace), presumably including many people in the West today who know nothing about Allah's religion but newspaper stories about Ayatollahs and mad Muslim bombers. Is it within such people's capacity to believe? In Ghazali's view, such people are excused until after they have had an opportunity to learn the undistorted truth about Islam (Ghazali: "Faysal al-tafriqa," Majmu'a rasa'il al-Imam al-Ghazali, 3.96). This of course does not alter our own obligation as Muslims to reach them with the da'wa'


    http://masud.co.uk/ISLAM/nuh/amat.htm

    Did Dante have a distorted version of Islam?

    Imam Ghazali quote explained:

    http://adoptingorthodoxy.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/imam-ghazali-and-faysal-al-tafriqah-2/
     
  5. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    'Does this mean Hamza Yusuf is in some sense a Traditionalist (upper case)? I think not. He doesn't recommend "hard" Traditionalist books--but he does recommend Ali Shariati. As well as being endorsed by Nasr, Seasons is also endorsed by John L. Esposito of the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University'

    http://traditionalistblog.blogspot.co.uk/2007/05/traditionalists-and-traditionalists.html?m=1

    Is Mark wrong and is Hamza really a Traditionalist (Upper Case)?

    “One of the things our Abrahamic Traditions suffer from is exclusivism. Many of the people who adhere to Abrahamic teachings whether they be Jews, Christians or Muslims, tend to see themselves as having some monopoly on the truth, and monopoly on the truth as far as any real Abrahamic traditions would say would be God’s alone.”

    If we accept or assume the possibly that He did speak, the divine spoke through these revelations of the Old Testamant, the Older Testament, the New Testament then the Quran, which each one has their claim. If we do accept that certainly God has many voices, and to claim any one voice to be the exclusive voice of God is a very dangerous thing to do.

    I’ve been in my share of exclusivist tradition, when I first became Muslim that was the type of Islam I was introduced to… when you begin to look at the nuances of our traditions you find is that they are deeply compatible at those most basic fundamental levels as they are teaching universal truths, and they would not resonate in the millions of hearts if that were not true.”


    http://adoptingorthodoxy.wordpress....fs-love-affair-with-the-perennial-philosophy/
     

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