The Ahbash refuted in the UK

hazrat amir mu'awiyah is a sahabi. one who says that he will enter hell must give proof from qur'an and hadith. besides, saying so is an insult of sahabah - which is implied insult of the ahl al-bayt, imam hasan and imam husayn and insult of RasulAllah sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.

the hypocrisy of the wretched low-lives who pride themselves in the suhbah of a fasiq like abdullah harari, deploring the sahabi of the highest in creation EVEN after acknowledging him as a sahabi! these are worse than rawafid.

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it is the same as saying abdullah al-harari will not only enter hell but burn in hell-fire and MAY come to jannah if he has not committed kufr - because of his calumny against sahabah and possible rebound takfir in many cases.

what is the proof for the second statement?

same proof for the first statement.

what is the daleel for the above claim?

 

Credit is due to brothers Nuridin Islam and Samer Abu Alamm, former members of the Ahbash cult, for their dedicated efforts in exposing this cults deviant teachings and positions over the past few years.

In this video featuring Ahbash leaders Samir al-Kadi, Nabil al-Sharif, and Ahmed Khalifa, they openly attribute sinfulness to the Prophet ﷺ. Towards the end of the video, this belief is uttered infront of Abdullah al-Harari, who remains silent and does not voice any objection:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...W7voUzcDiELRAeiWDyaZMizr7l&id=100001721921621

If there are any doubts about what the Ahbash have written about the Prophet ﷺ, brother Nuridin has presented evidence from their own books:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...CYv3ecSihdk5FYWrxQxtUPzuVl&id=100001721921621

Brother Nuridin addresses the Ahbash's attribution of sinfulness to the Prophet ﷺ in some of his videos, shedding light on what the Ahbash have written:

1 - https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2529569810443725&id=100001721921621

2- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2535079456559427&id=100001721921621

There are numerous other videos in which he discusses their deviation, but I've provided links to a few of them.

 

every accursed tongue that utters such filth is deserving to be cursed. the la'anah of men, jinn and angels upon them for uttering such an abominable aqidah.





besides, all the cock-and-bull stories about the "learning" of that fasiq dajjal kingpin - harari - are only habashi fantasies, muftari kazzab. he is no shaykh, no muhaddith nothing. an abject jahil carried around by fussaq.

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they say harari did not do any ma'siyah at all. sub'HanAllah - he committed a kabirah, worse than zina by his satanic attempt to diminish the lofty stature of my master. sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam.

our master, our nabi sallALlahu alayhi wa sallam NEVER committed a sin. that which is mentioned as a sin in relation to him is khilaf awla, meaning lesser of two beautiful actions.

this is our aqidah and anyone who contradicts this and tries to prove saghirah for our master, is a dajjal.

the general ruling for anbiya is not applicable in the case of our master sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam. therefore imam azam spoke of ismat of anbiya in general and specifically about our master so that people do not harbour doubts.

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al imam al a'azam abu hanifah said:

 

8. Regarding sheikh ra'id he married an 17 year old. Where the law there is 18.

What's wrong in this?

 

Some of the Shuyukh associated with the Lebanese Ahbash group who have attempted to attribute wrongdoing and sinfulness to the Prophet ﷺ, and the other Prophets and Messengers of Allah in their writings, videos, and lessons:

1. Shaykh Abdullah al-Harari
2. Shaykh Jamil Halim al-Hussaini - A prominent figure within the cult, known for using emotional appeals, spreading false information, and creating fabricated accounts of confrontations, Karamat, and dreams to manipulate Sunnis.
3. Shaykh Nabil al-Sharif al-Hussaini
4. Shaykh Usama Sayyid al-Hassani (formerly a student of Shaykh Ibrahim al-Yaqoubi)
5. Shaykh Tariq al-Lahm, who frequently visits the tombs of the Awliya and documents their lives for video content.
6. Shaykh Samir Kadi
7. Shaykh Riad Nachef (known for openly slandering Shaykh Salek Bin Siddina on the pulpits of mosques in the USA shortly before Shaykh Salek passed away, this was done with the help of Riad’s Jordanian sidekick Abdullah al-Khatib).
8. Shaykh Ra’id (convicted of inappropriate advances towards women, teenagers, and little girls in the US).

For more information, you can refer to the provided link: https://sunniport.com/index.php?thr...aall-slanders-the-prophet-ﷺ.15631/#post-80377

 

Can you post it on here?

 

mentioned in the snippet in hte other thread. in the tafsir of the relevant aayat in surah muhammad sallALlahu alayhi wa sallam

 

@abu Hasan

Can you post the Arabic reference regarding tanqees sagheerah of imaam maturidi you mentioned?

 

In this recently translated video, Abdullah al-Harari publicly criticizes Amir Muawiya. On this forum, Shaykh Asrar Rashid noted that despite his health issues, Shaykh Ibrahim al-Yaqoubi debated Harari on this topic. Can someone reach out to the rectors at Mahd al-Fath in Damascus to request the written record or audio recording of this debate as the Farfur Sayyids were present at the debate.

 

A just response to the Shi‘ah beliefs and lies of the Ahbash cult with evidences. Sunnis believe that all the Prophetic Companions عليهم الرضوان are promised paradise. #share

 

Ustadh-ul-Ulama Pir Mufti Muhammad Aslam Bandyalwi حفظه الله تعالى refutes the false beliefs of Abdullah Harari, founder of the AICP Ahbash cult, and his attacks against the Prophetic Companions عليهم الرضوان – Urdu & English #share

 

Message to the Ahbash cult to rectify their false beliefs from Ustadh-ul-Ulama Pir Mufti Muhammad Aslam Bandyalwi حفظه الله تعالى #share

 

Abdullah Harari, founder of the Ahbash cult and AICP organisation, wrote a number of books in which he attacked the Noble Prophetic Companions عليهم الرضوان. Him and his followers hold deviant beliefs and are not Sunnis. Stay away from Ahbash and warn others. #share

 

A 2008 email from their US branch I found in my archives, I was seeking clarification on Harari's position on Ameer Mu3awiyah radi Allahu 3anhu.

I can't find the other shorter email, but they said in that one that Abdullah Harari doesn't dispute taking of hadith and considers perfectly trustworthy to take hadith from Ameer Mu3awaiyah. (paraphrased in my words)

 

I disagree; the Ahbash have firmly established themselves across the UK and have been steadily amassing a substantial following through a quietist approach, and this is effectively challenging Ahl al-Sunnah now as has been witnessed by the fitna that has come out of the community in Halifax and this will be come apparent in places like Birmingham and London too if the scholars remain silent and let them spread their corruptly beliefs among the laity.

If you had mentioned this back in 2007, when the Ahbash primarily had a small following of Shaami adherents in London, I would have concurred. Initially, the Ahbash quietly assimilated into Sunni gatherings and assembled troubled individuals from the Pakistani, Arab, and convert communities, subsequently expanding their influence.

It would be more appropriate for someone like Shaykh Asrar Rashid to engage in a debate and counter Shaykh Fayyad Farooq, as the Sayyid lacks the ability to confront this deceiver and address the Ahbash beliefs. This way, the wider Sunni community can be informed and cautioned about this group.

More responses by Shaykh Fayyad:

 

al-munqidh mina'd dalal is a good intro.
tahafatu'l falasifah is also a good work - but the english translation has severe limitations and in my opinion does not capture the spirit of the original.

kant's critique of pure reason is another classic

of course, we can also go back to socrates and his method of critical enquiry as described by plato in the 'dialogues'.

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black swan and fooled by randomness by nissim taleb is in similar vein - a native arab (xtian), also appears to admire imam ghazali.

books by edward de bono on thinking.

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i believe one can learn this organically if they read books of imam ghazali's, imam razi, alahazrat and other great thinkers.

debunking fake news or fact-checking is a now common. historically, perhaps muslims were the first to make this fact-checking process embedded in the system - the jarh ta'dil and hadith authenticity process is the first of its kind large-scale fact-checking enterprise - when ulama were asked about the authenticity of an opinion on qur'an hadith etc.

the half dozen works on examining the status of "popular hadith" is a second level of fact-checking.

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Allah ta'ala knows best.

 

Any recommended books on limitations of science or on epistemology which will help us against atheists and even other Muslims who think scientific theories are the same as empirical facts?

 

the mercator projection is widely used and instilled in minds since primary schools. to elaborate on AQ's point:
until recent years, one had to argue with educated people while they looked upon you as a conspiracy theorist.

the question is - what other things, patently wrong and unfounded, are taught as gospel truth and empirical knowledge in schools?
going further - if we are not sure what is in the earth's core - how do we know what is in jupiter's core?
and what other 'projections' are being made that distort reality?

keep an open mind and other than matters of faith - question everything.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/all-over-the-map-mental-mapping-misconceptions

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/world-map-wrong-mercator-peters-projection-boston/

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/problem-with-our-maps/


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how projections are made
https://www.vox.com/world/2016/12/2/13817712/map-projection-mercator-globe

 

Only a person mahroom of geography will use the mercator map as an indication of accurate direction or expanse of landmass! For example if one discounts water bodies and territorial waters, the USA is bigger than Canada and China is bigger than USA. And Greenland is just like a wahabis brain, looks as big as Africa, but is 14 times smaller, and sparsely populated!