Tarikh agar dhoonde gi Sani-e-Muhammad Sani to bari cheez he saya na mile ga SallAllahu alayhi wa Aalihi wa Sallam
Those wahabis know very well about this rule of accepting dai'f hadith in matters of fadail because even a beginer in the study of hadith is taught this. Maulvi Ashraf ali Thanvi al deobandi wrote about this in Al maree fi al rabee where he writes this rule of accepting weak ahadith on matters of fadail. But his modern followers are shying away from writing this. This apart from the fact that Gangohi, Ashique Ilhai merathi , nanotvi and many other wahabi/deobandi scholars accepted that prophet ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam) did not have any shadow because he ( sal allahu alayhi wa sallam) was noor. I posted this to show that how deobandis are real wahabbis.
In the above mentioned he is saying that the narration is weak, not mawdu'. "If we were to say" means that we don't say it. There is an asl in usul al-hadith saying that a da'if ahadith can be used in fadail (matters of virtues). Even without other proofs the innovator's claim (the hadith being da'if) is enough as proof against him.
A wahabi website has posted this: For the illustrious companions to observe silence or for there to be only one expedient report about such a common occurrence is a strong indication that the narrations regarding this issue are not established. Secondly, the narration is a weak, mursal report. Thirdly, the narrator of the report has been documented to be a liar and fabricator of hadith. Thus if we were to say this hadith is a fabricated one, this would not be an over-exaggeration. To the best of my knowledge scholars of hadith have called the narration of Zukran ( rh) as dai'f and not mawdu. But wahabis are doing best to classify this hadith as "mawdu". Have you seen what Maulvi Ashraf ali thanvi al deobandi has written about this in his book Al maree fi al rabee?
this is another angle of the phenomenon of the shadowless prophet sallAllahu 'alayhi wasallam. trans: the awliya say that their souls are their bodies. they do the job of the body and sometimes the body reaches such pinnacles that they behave like souls. it is said that rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam did not have a shadow.
shaykh ya'qubi said in the shamayil course that rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam did not have a shadow because he is [not was]* made from light. * this is how sh. gibril writes in his article. i think it's in the one about the prophet sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam being the best of creation. you can read it here
Is it so difficult to accept that there is a difference of opinion, and leave it at that? Does this mean that someone who does not adhere to this view is not from the Ahl al-Sunnah?
what i can remember from sayyid aHmad sa'eed kazmi's article was that because he sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam is noor, and noor has no shadow, that is one of the reasons why he sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam has no shadow. this is what many of the imams stated. i dont remember them quoting as many hadith as compared to them saying rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam is noor, and therefore it follows he is shadowless. i will try to browse the article again and see what sayyid aHmad sa'eed raHimahullah said about the authenticity of the aHadith. oh, just remembered. weak aHadith are accepted in faDail al-a'maal and faDail al-ashkaaS.
al-Sayyid al-Shaikh Muhammad al-Yaqubi stated that the Hadith on this are weak, however this is an area of difference among the scholars of Hadith. Given that there is a difference of opinion concerning the strength of those narrations, I dont see why we should make it an issue of Aqidah as long as Adab is maintained. There is a story that one of the students of Sayyid Muhammad ibn Alawi al-Maliki told. He stated that the Shaikh was once teaching from the Khasai's of Imam al-Suyuti in the Haram al-Sharif, and he was reading the section on these Hadith about the Rasul-sallallahu alayhi was sallam not having a shadow. He stated that one of the well known Wahhabi scholars read these Hadith in a class and said: ''How can these Hadith be authentic? It would mean that Muhammad was naked (i.e. because the clothes are not a part of him therefore they would reflect a shadow).'' Shaikh Muhammad ibn Alawi continues: ''So some time had passed, and this scholar was in his home country. As this scholar was standing and waiting for a tram in the city, his Thawb was caught in the rail of the tram and the tram came by and pulled him down and killed him, ripping off his Thawb and exposing his nakedness.'' He then said: ''Yes, there is a difference concerning the strength of this Hadith, but Adab must be maintained.''
sorry i have not had time to do this. perhaps you can try to read the article because a lot of the aHadith are in arabic.
yes, the article of mawlana amjadi is more sayings of the 'ulama. i will try to scan the aHadith that are sited [sic] when i get time, insha' Allah.
My urdu is ok... but I prefer English. I had a look at the article you mentioned on your site. the actual hadith sited are few and there is no mention of their grading in some cases. does the urdu article address this and if so could you please copy and paste the relevant ahadith jazaakumallah khayr
if your urdu is up to scratch, then sayyid aHmad sa'eed kazmi raHimahullah has a brilliant article at http://www.kazmis.com/mkalat2_86.html. comprehensively covers the aHadith on the issue. if not, there is a translation of mufti jalaluddin aHmad amjadi's short article at www.aqdas.co.uk called The Shadowless Prophet sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam
Could anyone furnish us with most authentic textual proofs for this miracle of our beloved Nabi [sallallahu alayhi wa sallam]. Analysis of the ahadith would be helpful.
there is a very nice discussion on this at http://www.kazmis.com/mkalat2_86.html after reading a few articles, i agree with brother noori that mawlana was certainly a man of knowledge. i can see a lot of wisdom in his writings. when he writes about an issue, he writes comprehensively and removes all doubt. similar to alaHazrat. his face is full of noor too. may Allah bless both our imam's of ahlu's sunnah. ps: below is an excerpt i liked. i believe there is a typo. the book is not madar al-suluk; it is imdad al-suluk as is mentioned later in the article
A poet has said: Taarikh gar dhoonday gii saanii-e-Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم Saanii tau baRi cheez hai, saaya na milegaa! This verse has a mutiplicity of subtle meanings... Literally: If History shall seek another like Muhammad Let alone another, it shall not even find a shadow!
the ahlu's sunnah believe rasulAllah sallAllahu 'alaihi wasallam does not have a shadow because he is nur (light)