i keep telling you that you must read the post in the other thread for 1001 questions you may come up with, asking: 'is this kufr'.
sorry brother, i don't understand what exactly are you getting pedantic about. perhaps more learned brothers can help you out. of course we believe the ayah like Mufti Abubakr Shadhili says. my point was iman and a3mal and their recompense is the same for man or woman; will anyone argue against the fact that the most sinful Muslim woman is more superior to a kafir man? at a societal level, yes indeed, men have been made stronger and superior to women and given responsibility and authority over them - as prophets, political leaders, husbands. see this hadith, as well as read the Khutbah of Hajjatul Wada3 https://sunnah.com/bukhari:304 https://sunnah.com/muslim:1218a
السلام علیکم۔ I will clarify my question further here. And have a few follow up questions as well. 1) Men are have been given authority over women: to say that men and women have both been given equal rights in terms of the orders and decision making. Thus a husband has been given more rights in this regards. To deny this is kufr. But afzaliat (in general) means kasrat e sawab o taqwa. When we say men are afzal to women, does it mean this type of afzal: that men have more sawab to women? Or is it said in a different sense to connote authoritative aspect of a man when compared with a woman? For example, n this video at around 12:10, Mufti abu bakr siddique shazli sahab said that "ke mard auraton par bartari rakhte hain, fawqiyat rakhte hain, ya afsar hain. To iska inkar aqli top bhi jahalt ki baat hai aur qur'an o hadith ka bhi inkar hai" in the context of kufria kalimat where the host asked him if this is kufr and he said the above (meaning that it is kufr). So here by "fawqiyat" and "bartari", does he mean afzaliat in the sense I explained above or in the sense or authority? 2) Secondly, in the article, I don't think they were opposing the first point which I mentioned above (the authoratative aspect). But they said that qawwam means a degree above them in responsibility and not in superiority. What do they mean by superiority and responsibility in the above context? 3) If someone believes that men have authority over men and are in charge over them (not in the sense of putting them down all the time but like a kind king and the way in which shariah had taught us) but believes that men and women are equal in terms of afzaliat in the sense of the definition I gave above of kasrat e sawab o taqwa, is this correct?
jazak Allah hazrat. I also mean that isn't this from daruriat e deen as well to believe that men are more afdal to women. In the article the mention a different position. I wanted to know if that is also a valid position.
what do you mean by superior? mufaddal - more afdal? in general, overall, as a group - yes. individually, it comes to [Surah Al-Ḥujurāt: 13] ---- see this example re firawn's wife (Asiya bint Muzahim, one of the greatest Muslim women who ever lived), for example: [Surah At-Taĥrīm: 11]
I was of the opinion that men are superior to women and this is qawwamoon and to deny qawwamooon is kufr. In this seekerspath answer, https://www.seekerspath.co.uk/quest...-its-women-unfairly-and-without-equal-rights/ it says the following. Does this mean that to deny that men are superior to women is a vlid position? What is the correct opinion regarding this matter?
