A Necessary Clarification! This relates to how one must understand the hadith of Sayyidunaa Jabir (Allaah be well pleased with him) رواه عبد الرزاق بسنده عن جابر بن عبد الله بلفظ قال قلت: يا رسول الله، بأبي أنت وأمي، أخبرني عن أول شيء خلقه الله قبل الأشياء. قال: يا جابر، إن الله تعالى خلق قبل الأشياء نور نبيك من نوره، Love has limits which should not be transgressed or else the person will fall into disbelief! The belief of the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah (Ash’ari & Maturidi) is that Allaah the Exalted is One and is not divisible into parts. He, Majestic is He, is free from a bodily form or being comprised of parts. Regarding the light (Noor) of the Noble Messenger of Allaah (Allaah bless him & grant him peace); it was the first creation of Allaah the Exalted and from it stemmed the creation of all else that exists of that which is known and unknown to us, but known to Allaah the Exalted. Whosoever holds the belief that the light of the Noble Messenger of Allaah (Allaah bless him & grant him peace) was created from a “portion” or “ a piece was taken” from the Light (Noor) of Allaah the Exalted or in the other instance holds the belief that the “Light of Allaah” is a physical element is a kafir. This is not the belief of the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah (Ash’ari & Maturidi) but is a belief held by an anthropomorphist who believes in a god that can separate itself into portions. ......... Can the learned brethren, Shaykh Abu Hasan, Shaykh Aqdas et al provide any corrections/amendments and/or addtions
It's crucial that Ahlu's Sunnah - specifically our awaam - understand the true meaning of the Hadith of Jābir. It reads: إن الله خلق قبل الأشياء نور نبيّك من نوره Indeed Allah created before anything else, the light of your Prophet from His light. The word من here is ibtidā'iyah (to indicate beginningness). It is of tashrīf (nobility). It means the nūr had a beginning (ibtidā') and was created by Allah and it is under the authority of Allah. Just as we say BaytAllah for ka'abah sharif because it has a connection to Allah - we say NūrAllah to show the light of RasulAllah ﷺ has a special connection to Allah. The من in no way means the light of RasulAllah ﷺ is a part or portion of Allah. That would be kufr.
Is the statement ok then? Can we better it? It's essential because I believe this concept may have been badly misinterpreted by many!
9. hashiyah jamal ala jalalayn, vol.2 p.570 10. hashiyah sawi ala jalalayn, ahmad al-sawi [d.1241 AH] vol.2 p.249
because in our time, people are awed by numbers here goes: 1. bahr al-madid, ibn ajibah [d.1224 AH] vol.3 p.41 2. bahr al-muHiT, abu Hayyan al-andalusi [d. 745 AH] vol.5 p.441 3.baHr al-ulum, samarqandi [d.375 AH] vol.2 p.218 4. baseeT, waHidi [d. 468 AH] vol.12 p.601 5. futuH al-ghayb, Hashiyah [d.743 Ah] of Tibi on kash'shaf vol.9 p.32 6. fat'H al-bayan, bhopali qinnawji [d.1307 AH] vol.7 p.165 7. fat'H al-qadir, shawkani [d.1250 AH ] vol.3 p.178 [teacher and student above are of wahabi inclination; quoted here before others as the tafsir names appear in alphabetical order]
JazakAllaahu Khayran for shedding light upon this. It is highly beneficial and the explanations expounded should be passes on to those we know in order to save then from error
all the tafsirs say that the construct 'min ruHi' is to emphasis the nearness of aadam alayhi's salam and the honour which Allah ta'ala bestowed upon him. 'nafakhtu' literally, 'i breathed [into]' is a metaphor, a figurative expression to say: 'I gave him life'. otherwise, there was no breathing, nor being breathed into. as said in irshad al-aql al-salim of abu's su'ud afandi [which he restates from earlier mufassirin]:
leave awam, even so called 'shaykhs' don't know the difference. this man [imran hosein] is uttering utter kufr at 13:38. [update: shaykh asrar is commenting on parts of videos by imran hosein; and it is imran i am taking about]. notice compound kufr at 17.17 - the man is worse than a christian! the christian says that the 'divine spirit' is in sayyiduna yisa alayhis salam, but this man says that it is in every human. [around 17.48] it is kufr. al-iyadhu billah. nas'alu Allaha al-aafiyah. -- irony is that people spew kufr left and right but they are pure as angels. don't call that kufr or call them kafir - you are narrow-minded, sectarian, hasty in takfir, don't know nuance (remember hamza...? the king of nuance) and anything. keller can lie and indulge freely in false accusations on upright scholars, not a speck on his shiny [hitherto un-auctioned] jubbah, nor will his tasawwuf be harmed even if he makes the most atrocious comments lacking adab with the sayyidu'l khalq sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam; ihsan remains as firm as a concrete wall. but don't point out his mistakes - then you are a fitna monger, you lack adab with shaykhs, you need to get a life and the rest of the choicest epithets for us with exhortations of adab and suluk.
yes very true, but awam should also learn the basics, otherwise what would they make out of ruh Allah?
Allah ta'ala Is and Will Remain, as He always was. many of our Sunni Ulema often recite "asSalaato wa Salaamo alayka ya Nuro min Noori-Allah" or "asSalaato wa asSalaamo alayka ya Noor-Allah" in speeches and in supplications. It is indeed incumbent upon them to clarify this aqeedah; or else the awaam will simply quote them for their own misunderstanding.
Yes, its already been answered once with the given information but this time I wanted the opinion of Ibn Ali. That would be like reaffirming what was already said or something new may arise If its ok with you, brother, i'd still like to ask the brother
Brother the official fatawa is made under those circumstances you have mentioned? but my question is slightly different. Do those people hold the kufr belief mentioned
no, until and unless those people are questioned regarding it and they affirm that they understand it in the literal and physical sense. is it not quite possible that this is just brother ibn.ali's an assumption that people in south India take it literally?
As Salamu Alaikum Since you brother know the belief of the people in question, would the kufr apply on them?
ليس كمثله شئ so we believe that He azza wa jall is Noor as he Himself said, and the thing we see and call the light is not like Him.
I explain it this way: Allah azza wal jall created the nur (or haqiqah) of our prophet alaihi afDalus salat wat-tasleem first, then He created rest of the creation from the noor of RasulAllah alaihi afDalus salaat wat-tasleem.
