as requested by one of the brothers, the arabic is available at: http://aslama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9474 the original link used to be http://www.alwatan.com.kw/Default.aspx?MgDid=402270&pageId=69
@faqir. Please ask Allah subhanahu wata'ala to forgive my sins. Including my insults to you and any others on this and any other forum. I sincerely apologise my brother. I think I should bring the good out of everyone from now on.
Rather than making personal attacks on each other, can Wadood actually back up his statements without everyone else being character assassinated? What kind of discussion is this?
of course unless a scholar is being attacked or labelled a deviant innovator it is not meaningful to you not that i care what you think (I seek only Allah's reward) but some examples of my 'meaningful' contribution is in the ~150+ articles on marifah.net, five of the necessary recommended reading books you posted and asharis.wordpress.com now you tell me what you have done which is meaningful you 'condescending, self righteous, obnoxious' kattarprat and then lecture me otherwise shut your face wadood has not made a single valid argument but you are easily fooled, nothing I can do about that
yet another lie. you are a liar. i am not the one who goes by the title doc or dr on deenport.com but yes i am a dr and can see that you are in need of some serious psychiatric help.
kattaridiot what are you trying to prove from that news clip? yes wadood why don't you man up and declare these two scholars 'innovators' also. or are you just about hoo and haa of what their timetables or websites are reading today? yet all we get from you, apparently a big student of knowledge who has travelled the world is internet news reels on the goings on of various internet websites and news outlets - you better get down to that local masjid for a lesson from the young aspiring sunni you are talking about and come back here when you have something meaningful to offer the world
We dont need celebrity muftis, celebrity doctors, hoo haaa shaykhs, Dr this Dr that, mufti of fulan fulan, Dr of fulan fulan. These internet 'faqirs' are all about that hoo haaa. The young aspiring Sunni in my local masjid can add a better contribution to the debate between Abdul Ghaffar and Fawzan. At least it would be a contribution from a Sunni.
deception of this bava who runs around the internet calling himself 'faqir' This debate was between Abdul Ghaffar of Kuwait and Fawzan. If the deviant Ali Jumaa wants to add his contribution, then anyone else can also add their own contributions. So lets say faqir's favourite 'sunni scholar' faraz rabbani adds the exact same words as the deviant Ali Jumaa. And I am 100% that faraz rabbani agrees with Ali Jumaa on this. Would faqir then post faraz rabbani's contribution on our site for us to benefit? Ofcourse not, because we all know rabbani is a deobandi wahhabi of the second type. However, most Sunnis on our site do not know about the deviant Ali Jumaa. So, faqir is feeling free to promote the deviant on our site. But in sha Allah, the truth will prevail, and darkness will cover the faces of deceivers.
wadood, the content of a article and its conveying the truth is what is important not the name attached to it furthermore, sunni scholars should be judged by what their respected contemporaries say about them - not unknown psychopathic internet nerd, need to get some fresh air retards like you and finally, your above displayed loose principles (if you can call them that) for declaring sunni scholars to be innovators (no small matter) are laughable - read what the ulema say about such behaviour and seek Allah's forgiveness for your slander. now unless anyone has anything to say about the content of the article itself i will not be responding here wasting my time... that goes for your cheerleaders here also
'Ali Jum'a is NOT Sunni He is government appointed fake mufti and a fake sufi. He promotes deviancy through the new age wahhabi Suhaib Webb, and the new age modernist institute called Tabah Institute. Please dont promote ahl al-bid'a on our site.
Wasīla, Circumambulating Graves & Accusing Others of Shirk and Kufr The Muftī of the Republic of Egypt, Dr ʿAlī Jumuʿah, has made his contribution to the debate between the general secretary of the General Secretariat of Awqāf, Dr Muḥammad ʿAbdul Ghaffār Al-Sharīf and Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Bin Fawzān Al-Fawzān, a member of the supreme council of scholars in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, as well as Fayṣal Qazāz Al-Jāsim, whose comments have also been published as part of this debate that is taking place in the pages of Al-Waṭan regarding a number of Islamic issues. The Muftī of Egypt’s contributions have come as an answer to a question that was previously submitted to the Egyptian Fatwa Office via fax by Muḥammad Al-Fahd, Bassām Al-Hārūn, Aḥmad Al-Niṣf, Aḥmad Al-ʿAbīd and ʿAbdur Raḥmān Al-Kandarī and registered under no.1113 for the year 2006. What follows contains the text of the response that Dr Jumuʿah gave to the question and which was published by Al-Waṭan because of its connection to this Islamic discussion over an issue that causes a lot of division: Wasīla, Circumambulating Graves & Accusing Others of Shirk and Kufr Mufti ʿAlī Jumuʿah
