What is the hukm?

Discussion in 'Bickering' started by Wadood, Mar 17, 2013.

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  1. Wadood

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  2. Wadood

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    Brother Ghulam, the other zaytunite is Nazim Baksh of Canada, who is making a career by using islam and muslims, quick money. both he and mr feroz are now among the 500 most influential 'muslims'

    brother 'AbdalQadir, my opinion is that he is a jahil mutlaq shameless faker filth scum. this man has no adab even for Allah subHanahu. They think they can preach tasawwuf, while at the same time they dont even know basic Adab for Allah subHanaHu!!!! Do they think we common Muslims are this stupid? Does faraz think we are stupid?

    this man is looting poor kids. easy money from a free market of tasawwuf. i can tell you these devils are 10 times worse than the fake pirs of birmingham handing over mosques to sikh trustees. they are worse than dr tahir, who is a joker compared to these people.these scum should be insulted and kicked out of our Sunni masjids. they never go to dobbie masjids

    who is brave enough to stand up and speak the truth?
     
  3. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    just general background, who he studied from, cv etc.

    and btw, can someone state the hukm from the Shari3ah about such an action/saying?
     
  4. Ghulam

    Ghulam Veteran

    Who is the zaytunie and where does he say it?
     
  5. Wadood

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    yes he is. this is very common among followers of mr tj winters; it is their common word

    there is another more famous zaytunite who speaks quite in the opposite tone as mr afroz ali. he is on the harsher side. and the harshness is directed towards Muslims, as if christians are better than Muslims

    how can mr faraz defend this?
     
  6. Ghulam

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    'And we pray to God The Merciful that he will, and act in alignment with how his namesake centuries ago did, that God guide him through His Mercy and Succor'

    Is he praying for the argentian to be on kufr like francis?
     
  7. Wadood

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    yes brother 'Abdal Qadir. i know mr afroz ali. is there anything specific you want to know about him?
     
  8. Wadood

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    Yes brother 'Abdal Qadir. i know mr. afroz ali.
     
  9. Ghulam

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    'His famous journey during the 5th Crusade to attempt to convert the then Sultan of Egypt, al-Malik al-Kamal, was as profound for Francis as was his embrace of the lepers of Assisi'

    This idiot has probably just googled about francis to tell the Muslims about him yet is ignorant of basic Islamic History and the life of Sayyiduna Umar (RadiAllahu ta'ala anhu)

    'The adherents, the subjects, will follow in my humble opinion, if the leader only acted. The papal office is a powerful platform, and the new Pope Francis will need to choose to wield this power wisely. And we pray to God The Merciful that he will, and act in alignment with how his namesake centuries ago did, that God guide him through His Mercy and Succor'

    'in my humble opinion' I pray the argentinian becomes a Muslim and doesn't die a kafir like francis of assisi

    these hippes from kellers camp are losing the plot. they should stick to looking after the environment
     
  10. AbdalQadir

    AbdalQadir time to move along! will check pm's.

    What is the Shar3i hukm on a person who calls himself Muslim, and a christian as "a man of God" and "piety"?

    http://seekersguidance.org/blog/201...s-reflections-on-the-new-pope-imam-afroz-ali/

    Wadood you know this author?
     

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