would alaHazrat say this?

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    I quite like the naat overall but in this couplet the Deobandi undertones of its author, (the 'Saeed' I think being Saeed Anwar) are clear: if you recall, they don't believe Huzoor صلى الله عليه وسلم can hear us from his blessed rawdah, they don't believe in the haadhir naadhir of Huzoor, therefore this verse telling the angels to go and inform Huzoor that his slave 'saeed' is coming.

    Allah knows best. Junaid has a good voice and the tune of the naat is nice.
  2. Riaz Shahid

    Riaz Shahid New Member

    Yes he wrote:
    Kab hain kharay darakht Hazrat-e-wala kay samnay
    Majnoon kharay hain khaima-e-Laila kay samnay

    Alahazrat changed it as you wrote.
  3. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    yes, always iHtiram from imam e ishq o mohabbat.

    someone wrote about a man standing at the rawda and i think he compared to layla majnuN.

    imam ahmad rida heard it and immediately changed it to

    qudsi khaRe haiN 'arshe mu'alla ke saamne
  4. abu Hasan

    abu Hasan Administrator

    the lack of adab in this case is the undertone of self-importance. indeed we must not doubt the intention of the poet, but the tone seems not very respectful. why should RasulAllah sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam be informed beforehand? a slave does not announce his arrival; rather, he asks permission to proceed further. infact, a faithful slave does not even count his existence worthy enough to be noted by the master -

    koyi kyuN puuche teri baat raza?
    tujh se shayda hazaar phirtey haiN
    why should anyone even ask about you raza?
    a thousand commoners like keep running about.

    and in another distich:
    un ke aage da'awa e hasti raza?
    kya bakey jaata hai ye, har bar 'hum!'
    you dare mention your existence in his presence, O raza?
    then why are you keeping on repeating 'us' and 'we' so much?

    [this is a long poem complaining of our state, which keeps ending with the refrain 'hum' or us.] alaHazrat counts himself insignificant to be mentioned, even when beseeching him. that is adab. that is iHtiram.

    in another:
    sab karr o farr salam ko haazir haiN as-salaam
    Topi yahiN to khaak pe har karr o farr ki hai

    in another:
    ek maiN kya mere `isyaaN ki Haqiqat kitni
    mujh se sau laakh ko kaafi hai ishaara teraa

    in another:
    ilaahi sun le razaa jeete ji ke mawlaa ne
    sagaan e kuucha meiN chahraa mera bahaal kiya

    in another:
    jaan o dil hosh o khirad sab to madine pahunche
    tum nahiN chalte razaa saara to saamaan gayaa

    in another:
    maana ke sakht mujrim o naakarah hai razaa
    teraa hi to hai banda e dargaah le khabar
  5. Aqdas

    Aqdas Staff Member

    there is a na'at that often comes on various sky channels sung by junaid jamshed (deobandi) in which one line says:

    farishto yeh de do khabar jaa ke unko (or something with the same meaning)

    ke khadim tumhara saeed aa raha hai

    this kind of implies rasulullah sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam does not know saeed is coming to visit him.

    would alaHazrat use such lines? i think ulema e ahle sunnat probably wouldnt because of adab eventhough the angels can go to inform Rasulullah sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam as a mark of honour (like they take deeds to Allah) even when rasulullah sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam already has this knowledge.

    as alaHazrat says

    faryaad ummati jo kare haal e zaar meiN
    mumkin nahiN ke khair e bashar ko khabar na ho

    so is it ok to say such lines because they may cause confusion? would ulema e ahle sunnat agree or would they change it?

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